[cc-community] Patreaon TOS question.

Eric Hellman eric at hellman.net
Fri Aug 23 22:36:55 EDT 2013

It's not so horrible because it's poorly drafted, and courts are supposed to resolve ambiguity in favor of the non-drafting party.
So the "In order to…" clause would be have to be read as a sharp restriction of the "all rights" language.


Eric Hellman
President, Gluejar.Inc.
Founder, Unglue.it https://unglue.it/
twitter: @gluejar

On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:16 PM, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:

> So,
> can some explain to an ignorant person why this may not be as bad as it 
> appears? 
> "You hereby grant Patreon.com a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, 
> irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to 
> exercise all copyright, publicity rights, and any other rights you have in 
> Your Information, in any media now known or not currently known in order to 
> perform and improve upon the Service."
> That is from the end of section 11 at the following link.
> http://www.patreon.com/legal
> I came across patreon today and was interested in looking into using it to 
> fund some ongoing work.
> I was also wondering if Terry Hancock and the folks at Lunatics could use 
> something like this to fund individual character / scene developments.
> all the best,
> drew
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