[cc-community] NC/ND

cc at phizz.demon.co.uk cc at phizz.demon.co.uk
Tue Dec 13 20:52:02 EST 2011

On 13/12/2011 23:25, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM,<cc at phizz.demon.co.uk>  wrote:
>> On 13/12/2011 11:39, Joe Corneli wrote:
>>> It's all fine and good that institutions like MIT use CC-NC-SA -- I
>>> mean, it's there prerogative, right, if they want to "share" things
>>> that other people can't actually "use" (apparently without a second
>>> thought) -- but can't Creative Commons do something to discourage
>>> other organizations and individuals from using these licenses in the
>>> future?
>> Why so?
> This deserves a longer response, but in brief:
> (1) Allowing commercial use unlocks a lot more social benefit
> (2) Lots of publicly funded and otherwise intended for public benefit
> projects use NC
> (3) Lots of not particularly publicly interested projects use NC, but
> don't actually have any copyright-based revenue stream to protect
> (4) Beyond the over-use of NC (and under-use of fully open licenses)
> implied by 1-3, NC further restricts the overall value of the commons
> because it is fundamentally not compatible with fully open licenses,
> meaning the commons is more fractured, smaller, and less impactful
> than it could be

That is solely the problem of the 'open licenses'. It seems to me that 
some are quite capable of mashing up NC licenses without any problems to 
create a comprehensive educational resource:


without requiring a commercial license.

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