[cc-community] Over 250,000 CC-licensed sketches

Giorgos Cheliotis gcheliotis.lists at gmail.com
Mon Feb 23 12:39:02 EST 2009

Thanks Philipp for the clarification, I missed the "any" 5,000 part,  
now I believe I understand what you want to achieve with the license.

On Feb 21, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Philipp Lenssen wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Giorgos Cheliotis
> <gcheliotis.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nice site, simple and useful. But I find the implementation of CC+
>> confusing.
>> ...
>> It looks to me like these works should be licensed under CC BY.  
>> What is the
>> point of saying this is "BY-NC CC+" rather than just stating that  
>> some works
>> are under BY and some under BY-NC?
> Giorgos, we're using CC+ as described here:
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CCPlus
> The point is that one cannot use a simple "BY" and then introduce
> other restrictions, as the CC license in clause 8(e) specifically says
> that "Licensor shall not be bound by any additional provisions that
> may appear in any communication from You."
> We also cannot use BY on 5000 images and BY-NC on the rest, because
> you are free to choose which 5000 you want to use commercially; us
> deciding on which 5000 are NC would severely restrict the purpose
> (e.g. you ought to be free to create a "best of" cartoon book with
> Sketchory sketches of your personal choice). So instead, we use BY-NC
> on all images, but then -- via CC+ -- add a license which says "...
> but commercial use is OK for up to 5000 images...".
> As for the way the "CC+ " is linked from each page -- the "CC" linking
> to the Creative Commons license, and the "+" links to the Share page
> -- that is a compromise. Ideally, I would only want to link to the
> Share page, as I believe it takes some explanation to how CC+ works
> before the average user ought to be dropped onto e.g. our commercial
> extra clause. However, because I need to somehow integrate the
> rel="license" attribute for search engines and such, a link to the CC
> license from every page seems to be needed (unless I would go for
> RDFa, or so I heard, but that's apparently not as search engine proof
> just yet). So now the sentence "pics can be shared (CC +)" contains
> three links, two of them pointing to the Share page and one of them to
> the CC page; from the Share page, our actual "+" (commercial) license
> is linked.
> Philipp
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