Dr.Peter Troxler (Waag Society) peter at waag.org
Fri Sep 19 14:38:55 EDT 2008

```On 16 sep 2008, at 05:30, jonathon wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 16:05, Terry Hancock wrote:
>> YES. I would like to see a "Buy for the Commons" option: the author
>> can choose an amount for which they would be willing to release the
>> work By-SA for everyone. Once that's paid, the work is free.
>
> Does this example depict what you'd like.
>
> Party A licenses a work under some-bizarre-license, but also has a
> Party B looks at the work, and figures it is worth spending US\$1 000
> Party C then uses the work under a CC-BY-SA license

This sounds like a cool idea and it left me wondering who would
actually pay the US\$1 000 -- would obviously be some guy who then
could make lets say US\$10 000 from it. Who is this mysterious Party
B?  an aggregator? a re-seller? -- I could see quite some irony in the
proposal

The other model proposed by drew Roberts sounds more CC-like to my ears:
>> There is also the purchase a copy at \$20 and when
>> sales reach \$1,000 then the work will be licensed BY-SA plan.

depending on the material and recent commercial experiments however,
one would have to look quite closely at how such an offer would be
priced ... the magic \$1 per song (Apple), \$5 per album (probably the

So it would be interesting to estimate how much transaction cost such
an engine could reasonably impose ...

let me give a music model:
magic song price \$1
added value people are happy to pay for the common good: estimate 50%
= + \$0.50
money handling fee ... anything above 5%, say 8% (typical PayPal
ratio) = - \$0.12
if we'd want to stay with the \$1 to the author, again factoring in
PayPal at 8%, we'd have to pay \$1.09 to leave \$1
i.e. our transaction costs can be max \$1 + \$0.50 - \$0.12 - \$1.09 = \$0.29
so if we get 10.000 offerings a year that each sell 100 times to reach
the \$100 for release we could run the engine plus marketing to grow
etc. for 10,000 * 100 * \$0.29 = \$29,000 a year
and notice: we'd be paying the authors actually more than they would
get from an iTunes sale -- I remember reading of something around 70%
to the 'rights holders' ;-)

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