[Cc-ch] Fragen zum Launch der schweiz. CC

Corsin Camichel cocaman at gmail.com
Tue May 1 04:20:33 EDT 2007


Hello Martin, Claude and list

Thanks for your responses and information.
I made some thoughts about the next steps and I think what would help
the most would be to bring some big player (musician, author, any
other content creator) to the license. Like a musician releasing one
of his songs under a Creative Commons license. That would bring the
biggest echo from media and is a good starter.

> - Incite content producers that are financed by public monies (Universities, SSR SRG, mseums, some foundations) to use non restrictive licenses for their web content
Is not the BBC doing something in this direction?

A launch party is of course cool for all the geeks and techies out
there. But I think we need other kind of groups to support CC (we
hackers still believe in "all knowledge has to be free", so that's why
a lot of us already use it).

Corsin

On 5/1/07, Martin Feuz <martinfeuz at bluewin.ch> wrote:
> Hallo Corsin, Claude und commoners
>
> ich antworte auf Frage 4:
> Claude könnte es nicht besser formuliert haben. Es ist nun die Frage
> was WIR nun als nächsten tun sollen und werden. Jeder ist eingeladen
> mitzugestalten und seine Ideen und Taten miteinzubringen.
> In Zürich wird gerade für die Zeit nach dem Launch eine CC_Party
> vorbereitet.
>
> Was schlägst du vor, was es im schweizer Kontext nun zu tun gibt?
>
> lg martin
>
>
>
> Am 30.04.2007 um 22:45 schrieb Claude Almansi:
>
> > Hi Corsin and All
> >
> > Corsin, please bear in mind that I am no lawyer: if I still presume to
> > attempt an answer to your question, it is just because the people who
> > are really informed are rather busy preparing the launch of the Swiss
> > CC-licenses.
> >
> > On 4/30/07, Corsin Camichel <cocaman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> (...)
> >>
> >> Frage 1: Was heisst "Die für das Schweizer Recht adaptierten Creative
> >> Commons Lizenzen"? Was musste da genau angepasst werden?
> >
> > While copyright laws in all countries are all based on international
> > treaties (Bern Convention and offsprings), there are differences from
> > country to country. For instance in the legal status of collecting
> > societies. This is the reason for the national adaptations.Top right
> > of http://creativecommons.org, there is a drop-list entitled "Select a
> > jurisdiction": you'll see that several other countries also have
> > adapted licenses.
> >
> > People from OpenLaw.ch will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that
> > the adaptations regard the Legal Code part of the license, while the
> > Human Readable version and the Machine Readable version remain
> > identical to the International version for all countries.
> >
> >>
> >> Frage 2: Wenn es nun eine angepasste Schweizer Version gibt der CC,
> >> wie erkennt der Benutzer/User den unterschied? Gibt es spezielle
> >> Buttons?
> >
> > The difference - from what I have seen in other nationally-adapted
> > licenses - is in the URLof the page linked on the button and on the
> > words "some rights reserved" - but buttons are the same.
> >>
> >> Frage 3: Wieviel Zeit hat die ganze Anpassung benötigt?
> >
> > I remember that  the OpenLaw team was already working on the
> > adaptation early in 2004, but I don't know when they actually began.
> >
> >>
> >> Frage 4: Was werdet ihr als nächstes unternehmen?
> >
> > Again, you'll get more precise answers about some concrete plans from
> > others, but I would prefer to reformulate your question as "What shall
> > we do next?", because it is up to all of us, really. Considering that
> > the CC licenses' aim is to preserve access to information and
> > knowledge, and to do so by getting creative  (see the movie
> > http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/getcreative/), there are many
> > possible initiatives. Not completely off the cuff (1), here are some
> > domain of possible actions:
> >
> > - remain watchful about what happens with the revision of Swiss
> > Copyright Law
> > - Incite content producers that are financed by public monies
> > (Universities, SSR SRG, Museums, some foundations) to use non
> > restrictive licenses for their web content
> > - further knowledge of resources under CC licenses, not only
> > theoretically or by pointing to repertories, but by organising events
> > (concerts, exhibitions, film projections,  debates).
> > - further understanding of how CC licenses actually work , in
> > particular of how to fully register a work under a CC license (i.e.
> > get the identifying computer code for it, with all the info about the
> > work and the author in the code).
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Claude
> >
> > (1) I have followed some of the CC initiatives, Swiss and
> > international for a while, though  mainly as a translator.
> >
> > --
> > Claude Almansi
> > CH-6532 Castione
> > gruppo di lavoro Noi Media www.noimedia.org
> > Swiss Internet User Group www.siug.ch
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