[Cc-be] Fwd: CC music at Fosdem
joeri at symbiotix.net
Mon Nov 19 06:40:12 EST 2007
let me clearly state I'm firmly on FOSDEM's side.
1. Actually, the Belgian CC license explicitly states that the license
does not change anything to the "billijke vergoeding".
2. you get permission to distribute, but that saying that distributing
equals playing (or performing) is a personal interpretation
3. contrast the Belgian CC license with the Spanish one: the Spanish one
explictly allows public performance, while the Belgian one does not.
My question: can a "billijke vergoeding" be demanded on music published
under a non-Belgian CC license? If the problem lies solely with the
Belgian CC license, a solution would be to not use Belgian CC'd music,
Michel Berghs wrote:
> If you only play music with the CC license, you don't have to pay
> Sabam (see http://netlabelism.net/parties), because you do it in "an
> act of trust" (te goedertrouw). If there are artists with music under
> CC license and they are member of a collectors society like Sabam,
> they are incorrect, and Sabam should sue them. About "billijke
> vergoeding": the CC license gives explicitly the permission to
> distribute the music, i.e. play music, so I would refuse to pay this
> kind of "blackmail".
> If you're lookin for CC music, have a look at my site:
> Michel Berghs
> On Nov 19, 2007 11:52 AM, Mark Van den Borre <mark at markvdb.be> wrote:
>> 2007/11/19, Bruno De Bondt <bruno at indymedia.be>:
>>> Hello list,
>>> The people of Fosdem, the yearly Free & Open Source Software Meeting
>>> held in Brussels, are considering playing CC licensed music in between
>>> Appearantly, they would need to pay Sabam even if the music they play is
>>> strictly CC licensed. Is this correct? Or does it only matter for
>>> artists who are a member of Sabam?
>> This is legally correct. But at least theoretically, there is a way
>> for the CC artists played to claim their share of the "billijke
>> vergoeding/rémunération équitable" contribution paid by FOSDEM
>> vzw/asbl. I have once looked up this mechanism "on the interwebs", and
>> found it. Unfortunately, I can't find the relevant information
>> I will follow this up with the other FOSDEM people and see if there is
>> any interest in testing this "claim your share" principle.
>> Mark Van den Borre
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