[Cc-be] CC music at Fosdem
Severine Dusollier
severine.dusollier at fundp.ac.be
Tue Dec 4 11:56:43 EST 2007
yes. We do have a problem with the rémunération
équitable for performers' and producers' rights.
We are currently trying to revise a difficult
provision in CC v.2 Belgium when translating the
last version of CC license to solve that issue.
But, in my view, it would apply only if you have
a producer affiliated with SIMIM or a performer
affiliated with a performers' rights society such
as URADEX.
THis is the most intricate problem of CC licenses
right now. SO I don't have a definitive answer on
that. Sorry.
Séverine
At 18:41 +0100 27/11/07, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
>Hi Sévérine,
>
>2007/11/27, Severine Dusollier <severine.dusollier at fundp.ac.be>:
>
>> If you play only CC-licensed music and can prove it, you should not pay
>> anything to the Sabam.
>But we would have to pay "billijke vergoeding/rémunération équitable"
>right? Have a look at our situation form the following perspective:
>* The legal way would cost money.
>* The CC artists we play would never see a cent of this money.
>* The distribution of the money to artists is a mess.
>* Simim's license is scheduled to be withdrawn
>2007/02/22, the day before FOSDEM
>* Music between tracks is not FOSDEM core business
>* Many CC musicians do not want their audience to pay money to the
>"billijke vergoeding/rémunération équitable" monopoly.
>* Many free software enthousiasts don't want to strengthen the teeth
>that bite digital freedom.
>
>Are there legally safe or tested ways around this?
>
>What about:
>* using MIDI files?
>* asking for a 0.01¤ entry fee to make it a "non-public" event and as
>such exempt from "billijke vergoedig/rémunération équitable"
>
>> If there is any problem I could intervene.
>That is really nice of you!
>
>> BUT (and it is a big BUT), it is true that if some artists are members of
>> the Sabam (and of any European collecting society with which SABAM
>> collaborates to collect copyright royalties), those artists are normally not
>> allowed to license their works under a CC license. Therefore, for those
>> artists, the licenses they put on their works is not valid for the Sabam.
>> THis is a big issue right now for CC.
>> Anyway, I would not raise this point to the Sabam, let them find this legal
>> intricacy by themselves.
>Shouldn't they sue their own members here, and not organisers?
>
>Mark
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