[BitTorrent] Torrent Exchange Protocol
jason at jasond.org
Sun Jan 9 09:15:40 EST 2005
well look im sorry if i was a bit harsh, I didnt mean to come off so
mean. But you are still completely missing the point - everything you
are discussing is related to PIRATE CONTENT! "Bit Torrent" has nothing
to do with any of that - none of what you just listed is a problem.
i think some of these ideas are great - just dont expect any of that to
be called "bit torrent"
serously tho - i wish someone would write a bt derived pirate protocol
so you guys would stop worrying about bit torrent
Aykut Akyon wrote:
> Is Jason Duncan's comments are right? Do you people want to destroy
> BT? I don't fully agree with these comments. Because:
> a) Some tracker websites are closed, or closing down. I, personally,
> had three seperate downloads, all of them were around 75-80%
> downloaded, and the tracker site (www.demonoid.com) is closed. Now,
> from where I am going to find them again? Isn't it a pity that me and
> my computer spent some time to download that much data for nothing?
> b) Some of the tracker sites are charging money for their services.
> Isn't this service supposed to be free through the internet? I agree,
> to keep up a site needs money. This is where the donations comes in;
> or, maybe a few, reasonable advertisements.
> c) Some other sites uses a lot of pop-up's, which irritates me. Or,
> even relays you to other sites which has nothing to do with Torrents.
> I am sure many of you have faced with these things.
> That is why I, sort of, agree with the guys who try to find a way to
> cut down, sort of, the tracker monopoly. Clients, after obtaining the
> data from a reliable torrent source, should be able to communicate
> with each other in the case of a closed tracker site so uploads and
> downloads can continue. Seeders should continue to upload their seeds
> via their own reliable tracker, I believe, this way, the tracker site
> will not be by-passed.
> I, personally, was very found of demonoid.com. He did a marvellous
> job. I hope he will find the two sites that he is seeking, in order to
> continue what he did up to now. Anybody who is interested please visit
> his site to learn more about what he is seeking.
> I hope, you guys who try to find a new way for a distribution network,
> will find a way so everybody will be happy; trackers, clients, etc.
> (except some agencies!!!).
> Regards to all
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J Duncan
> To: BitTorrent at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [BitTorrent] Torrent Exchange Protocol
> Why does everyone want to destroy what BT is and what it does. You
> people need to go write your own BT derived PIRATE protocol. because
> these additions you guys keep trying to sell are solutions to problems
> that do not exist! and quite frankly this "torrent exchange" scheme is
> insanely dumb, no offense.
> seriously folks, you need to step back, see what BT is, what it is not,
> and then roll your own system - because all you really want to do is
> break bit torrent.
> just a note, an optimal solution would be to implement backend tools to
> assist bit torrent in doing what it does best - then you could
> eventually roll these into custom bt-derived tools if desired. for
> example we keep seeing people wanting to crap all over the beauty of
> bt protocol to create a "trackerless" distributed network for the
> peerlists... well how about instead of breaking BT you create a
> app - a distributed p2p system that does nothing but sit on a local
> machine and create a gigantic distributed tracker that tracks any
> arbitrary hash - then just force all your torrent announces (from
> whatever bt client you like) to localhost. theres also been some
> interesting comments about using the other less superior p2p (pirate)
> protocols for sharing, searching, and managing only TORRENTS
> and there are other solutions,
> so please stop trying to destroy bit torrent
> k thx
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