[b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
kpenner at stfx.ca
Mon Jun 10 07:31:01 EDT 2013
For a convenient and comprehensive list of "Septuagint" manuscripts, see http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak//earlylxx/earlypaplist.html
It includes notes on the form of the Tetragrammaton in some of the manuscripts.
Ken M. Penner, Ph.D.
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From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:28 AM
To: Rolf; b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
Thanks Rolf for some of this information. Moderators: Sorry about the length since I figured you all would want this information to go out ASAP. May it generate more light than heat.
Considering that the Tetragrammaton is still a sticky issue to deal with especially regarding its pronunciation, yet, sometimes, scholarship lags behind the finds in the field especially since it looks like there are several mss from the DSS that have finally been published. Unfortunately, the high cost of obtaining them creates problems in itself. Soon they will be on the Internet so every person can see them, but in the meantime....
The items below may not answer all the questions, and, in fact, create more, but what needs to done is ask the "right" question. If one asks the wrong question, then one will get the wrong answer.
See the following from http://awilum.com/?p=640. Please note the information from the Comments section of Edward Gallagher, Adam McCollum and Nick Batchelor. Furthermore, the dissertation of F.S. Shaw, "The Earliest Non-mystical Jewish Use of Iαω," 2002, University of Cincinnati, is about to be published by Peeters this year 2013, so it may not be available soon. See notice here: http://rave.ohiolink.edu/etdc/view?acc_num=ucin1014323679 and here: http://www.peeters-leuven.be/boekoverz_print.asp?nr=9332.
See John Hobbins, http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com/ancient_hebrew_poetry/2009/05/the-splendid-iao-the-identification-of-helios-with-iao-the-god-of-the-jews.html.
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
d Gallagher says:
August 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
Sorry for the long response. I feel a need to provide bibliography. I hope that provides defense enough for the length of my comment.
As far as I am aware, only one extant manuscript uses the Greek transliteration IAO for the Nameâ€”4QLXXLevb, published in DJD 9, and dated to the first century BCE. Codex Marchalianus (6th cent. CE) has this reading in the margin (see Rahlfs, Verzeichnis der griechischen Handschriften des Alten Testaments, I.1 , 346â€“350). The Hexaplaric versions do not contain this transliteration, but apparently retain the Hebrew word in Aramaic script, as in the Mercati fragments of the Hexapla, or perhaps, originally, in paleo-Hebrew script, as several other early LXX (revised) manuscripts do, e.g. the Greek Minor Prophets scroll from Nahal Hever.
Despite the paucity of attestation of IAO in manuscripts of the Greek OT, it is clear that this was a relatively well-known pronunciation of the Name among Greek writers. See P.W. Skehan, â€œThe Divine Name at Qumran, in the Masada Scroll, and in the Septuagint,â€ BIOSCS 13 (1980): 14â€“44, who cites (p. 29), inter alios, Diodorus Siculus (1st cent. BCE) and Origen.
This evidence has led none other than Emanuel Tov to conclude that IAO was the original LXX reading for the Divine Name, instead of kyrios. See his â€œThe Greek Biblical Texts from the Judean Desert,â€ in S. McKendrick and O.A. Oâ€™Sullivan (eds.), The Bible as Book: The Transmission of the Greek Text (New Castle, DE: Oak Knoll Press, 2003), 97â€“122 (112â€“114).
Probably the most developed explication of this view is a dissertation at the University of Cincinnati by Frank Shaw (2002), for which Prof. Kamesar served as a reader. It is called â€œThe Earliest Non-Mystical Jewish Use of Iaw.â€
I myself am not convinced that IAO was the original LXX reading, and I think Martin RÃ¶sel makes a pretty good case against it: â€œThe Reading and Translation of the Divine Name in the Masoretic Tradition and the Greek Pentateuch,â€ JSOT 31 (2007): 411â€“428 (417â€“419).
At any rate, it does seem clear that the reading IAO was a known quantity in the first century, at least in Jewish circles familiar with the Greek biblical tradition.
Adam McCollum says:
August 14, 2008 at 1:15 am
In addition to Mr. Gallagher’s learned comments, Â§Â§20-21 of Metzger’s Â«Mss. of the Greek BibleÂ» where he treats Greek OT mss. that have some form of Hebrew or Aramaic script for the tetragrammaton and the so-called nomina sacra of Greek OT (and other) mss. deserve to be mentioned in this discussion. The former instances do not, however, in and of themselves offer any proof as to how these occurrences were actually read (aloud, of course), either as some iteration of YHWH or as kyrios. Metzger’s discussion includes many bibliographic references and a few interesting patristic comments on the matter here under discussion.
Nick Batchelor says:
March 5, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Here is a list of LXX versions that I am presently aware of that contain the Tetragrammaton:
• 4Q LXX Levb.
• Ambrosiano O 39 sup.
• Aq Burkitt.
• Aq Taylor.
• LXX IEJ 12.
• LXX P. Fouad Inv. 266.
• LXX P. Oxy. VII.1007.
• LXX VTS 10a.
• LXX VTS 10b.
• Sym. P. Vindob. G. 39777.
The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (Volume 2, page 512) says: “Recent textual discoveries cast doubt on the idea that the compilers of the LXX [Septuagint] translated the tetragrammaton YHWH by kyrios. The oldest LXX MSS (fragments) now available to us have the tetragrammaton written in Heb[rew] characters in the G[ree]k text. This custom was retained by later Jewish translators of the O[ld] T[estament] in the first centuries A.D.”
Lastly, as Angie’s comment revealed, “Why is God’s name a bid deal?” As her if her name means much to her. What if we substituted it for wife, woman, sister, how would SHE feel if everyone stopped using her name? The Scriptures unite to tell us that God wants us to know and use his name. He invites us to do so. Can we think of anyone we have a close relationship whose name we do not know or use? Think it through people.
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