[b-hebrew] Masoretic transmission of pronuncation
jshepherd53 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 15 13:23:48 EDT 2013
Thanks again for this. I'll have to do some more research; but for now
I'll defer to your scholarly opinion. Now, off to Olive Garden!
jshepherd53 at gmail.com
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Barry H. <nebarry at verizon.net> wrote:
> On 7/14/2013 8:08 PM, Jerry Shepherd wrote:
> > Hi Barry,
> > Thanks for this. But allow me to press a distinction I'm thinking of in
> > asking the question. In your last sentence you said, "I have no doubt
> > that an 11th century French speaker would have pronounced Latin
> > filtered through medieval French."
> > I agree with this to a large extent, and understand that, for
> > example, Latin words would have been "Frenchized" in normal
> > conversation, sermons, and even liturgy. But it also seems to me that
> > this would have been less true for the professional academics who were
> > working with the Latin texts, copying them, and doing hermeneutical and
> > commentary work on them. So, going back to Will's example, a scholar
> > may have well "Frenchized an original Iulius to Julius in normal
> > conversation, but would still have recognized that the actual
> > pronunciation was I rather than J, and would have used the more accurate
> > pronunciation in a more scholarly context. But maybe I'm out to lunch.
> > Thanks and blessings,
> Jerry, with regard to Latin, I just don't think this is true. Now, I'm
> not anywhere near an expert in Latin manuscript copying and
> transmission, but one way to check this would be through copyist errors.
> I seem vaguely to remember reading or hearing in a lecture that there
> was some actual evidence of this sort, but have no idea of the details
> anymore. If you have any actual evidence that "professional academics"
> during the medieval period actually pronounced Latin differently than
> their local languages and dialects, I'd very much like to see it.
> And, of course, the The Masoretic context could be quite different.
> Wasn't a deliberate effort made to preserve proper pronunciation? When
> did that start? But even today, Sephardic and Ashkenazi often sound
> quite different.
> Enjoy your lunch...
> N.E. Barry Hofstetter
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