[b-hebrew] hatef vowels

Isaac Fried if at math.bu.edu
Sat Feb 16 22:16:03 EST 2013

I think that the claim that hatef is "spoken shorter"  is a  
terminological farce resulting from the funny literal  
misinterpretation of "hatef" (which I think is but another word for  
schwa) as "snatched".

I think that the XATAP-PATAX, for instance, is instituted as a  
conciliation of a tradition for a schwa and a tradition for the sound A.

I have never heard the XATAP-PATAX being read "shorter". It is  
routinely (and this is how do it) read as A, and Hebrew works  
perfectly well this way.

It is true, that some readers revert to a schwa in a xet marked by a  

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:54 PM, ps2866 at bingo-ev.de wrote:

> Dear Friends,
> I'm not in agreement with a friend, whether a vowel - say segol - that
> gets a hatef changes in quality OR in quantity. I was taught that a  
> hatef
> vowel only is spoken shorter but the vowel itself remains the same.
> Is it true ?
> Can you help me ?
> Yours
> Peter Streitenger, Germany
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