[b-hebrew] Zech 9:10

Dave Washburn davidlwashburn at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 14:34:14 EDT 2013


We could get a really good argument going here: "No, I like your idea
better!" "No, no, no! Your idea is better!" I wonder how long we could run
with that? (barring moderator interference, of course ;-)


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> No worries; I didn't think you were disagreeing with me; and I agree with
> your understanding of what's happening.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerry Shepherd
> Taylor Seminary
> Edmonton, Alberta
> jshepherd53 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello Jerry,
>>
>> I quite agree. If my comments sounded as though I was disagreeing with
>> you, it was not intentional. The second phrase expands on the first one, so
>> colloquially we might say "left, right, hither, yon - everywhere!"
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I just want to clarify that I think you are definitely correct that the
>>> import of the two phrases is, as you said, a "rather extensive way of
>>> saying, 'everywhere.' "  The point I was making in my reply to Stewart is
>>> that the relationship between the two phrases is not epexegetical; i.e.,
>>> the second phrase is not explaining the first phrase.  Rather, they are
>>> working together as parallel merisms.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Jerry Shepherd
>>> Taylor Seminary
>>> Edmonton, Alberta
>>> jshepherd53 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Stewart Felker <
>>>> stewart.felker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> וְדִבֶּר שָׁלֹום לַגֹּויִם וּמָשְׁלֹו מִיָּם עַד יָם וּמִנָּהָר עַד
>>>>> אַפְסֵי אָֽרֶץ
>>>>>
>>>>> I have two issues here. משלו here is to be understood as "his
>>>>> dominion" - the object of דבר, correct? So, "and he will proclaim peace to
>>>>> the nations and [proclaim] his ruling/dominion..." Most major translations
>>>>> seem to be obscure this, supplying that his dominion "will extend" or "will
>>>>> be" from sea to sea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> וּמָשְׁלֹו מִיָּם עַד יָם looks more like a verbless clause to me: He
>>>> will proclaim peace to the nations, and his dominion is/will be from sea to
>>>> sea etc.  I'm not sure the grammar will support it as an object of דִבֶּר.
>>>> It reads more naturally as a separate clause.
>>>>
>>>> Also, is it possible that the waw connecting מים עד ים with מנהר עד
>>>>> אפסי ארץ is epexegetical?
>>>>>
>>>>> I tend to think so. "From sea to sea, from the River to the ends of
>>>> the earth/land" appears to be a rather extensive way of saying "everywhere."
>>>>
>>>> My answers are free, and well worth it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Washburn
>>>>
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