[b-hebrew] third person as copulative
mabernathy at conwaycorp.net
Wed Nov 14 13:05:26 EST 2012
I understand both sides of the argument concerning the use of the
pronoun as either a hangover from an ancient word that happened to sound
like the pronoun but meaning "is" or a redundant (in English) pronoun.
But I am a little confused how you deal with the passages where???? is
used with another pronounlike Isaiah 7:28:
Do you understand this as "You are God Himself"?
On 11/14/2012 7:33 AM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote:
> ET in hebrew is a preposition (similar to MIN, EL, (AL, LIFNEY etc)
> and a marker for direct object, and as such
> it is not specified for gender or number. it is the same ET for
> now, AT, ATAH, HEM etc is a personal pronoun*, and is specified for
> both gender and number.
> i think you confuse the two. now, i admit that it is logical to see
> the pronoun as linguistically derived from the preposition
> (precisely bygender and number speciation). thiere is room for much
> speculation here.
> probably, H* was used as the primordial semitic 2nd and 3rd pronoun,
> from which we still have in hebrew HU, HI, HEM, HEN.
> the question of ATAH, AT, ATEM, ATEN is less understood. one would
> like to conjecture a dative origin (thus, ATAH is ET-H*)
> for them, which became nominal later; but then there is the problem of
> the truly hebrew dative forms (OTKhA, OTAKhetc).
> here, the situation is less clear.
> *> isaac: 1. Food for thought: Does not the translation implicitly see
> this HU as a verb?
> the translation is in english, and the two languages have a different
> vision of the role of an auxiliary verb. in hebrew HU) is not
> considered a verb.one argument for
> this is that it is not tense specified (past, present, future), while
> the english TO BE is tense specified.
> > 2. If the "first person" may speak for himself as a "third person",
> > can not the first ?? AT or ET of Gen. 14:9 stand for ??? HU or ?? ZEH,
> > or even ?? HEM, as in 1Sam. 17:34, and Neh. 9:34?
> *i dont see the logic here. distorting an argument does not render it
> nir cohen
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