[b-hebrew] how to cite non-English on this list

Dewayne Dulaney dewayne.dulaney at gmail.com
Fri Jul 20 22:19:28 EDT 2012

There was a time earlier, when despite my having numerous Unicode
Hebrew fonts installed, and Unicode-compliant browsers and email, I
could see nothing but question marks in my Gmail when some list users
wrote in normal Hebrew script (square, not Paleo). However, I was able
to see the Hebrew script fine in the archive version. I found that
switching my subscription from the Digest version to the regular cured
the problem. I don't know if this is still an issue for anyone or not.

Frankly, the Ascii is so different from the normal transcription I
find it difficult to follow. I much rather would see CH or H for X,
for example.

Dewayne Dulaney

On 7/18/12, K Randolph <kwrandolph at gmail.com> wrote:
> Will:
> Should not the question be, who on this list is still tied to a mail server
> that cannot present UTF-8 encoding?
> I originally switched to gmail because the mail service I was using could
> show unicode, but not allow me to send same. Today it is UTF-8 compliant.
> All the email servers that I know of are UTF-8 compliant. So are there any
> members of this list who cannot receive and/or send unicode?
> If everyone can receive and send unicode, is there any reason to continue
> the transcription scheme?
> Karl W. Randolph.
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Will Parsons <wbparsons at alum.mit.edu>wrote:
>> Hello, fellow subscribers to the Biblical Hebrew mailing list,
>> What's the current feeling about using Unicode/UTF-8 encoding for citing
>> non-English text (e.g., Hebrew [obviously], Greek, Arabic, &c.), or
>> pronunciations (using IPA symbols)?  Historically, it's been considered
>> proper to use only 7-bit ASCII in Usenet or mailing lists, but sometimes
>> (as
>> in the case of this mailing list) it's difficult to do this adequately.
>> In my own posts to this list in the past, I've attempted to deal with this
>> by citing original forms in Unicode with a transcription into the "usual"
>> English representation of the original, hoping that this will satisfy both
>> the needs of those that can both read and understand the original forms
>> and
>> also of those that may not be able to see the original characters (i.e.,
>> can't see the Hebrew/Greek/Arabic/[whatever] text) or be able to undestand
>> it (obviously, not everyone can be knowledgable about every language that
>> may be relevant to Biblical Hebrew).
>> So, I would like to ask if people on this list have issues with reading
>> Unicode?  To be clear, I am *not* asking whether people can understand
>> Greek/Arabic/[whatever], but whether they can actually see a cited text as
>> something other than gibberish.
>> --
>> William Parsons
>> μη φαινεσθαι, αλλ' ειναι.
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