[b-hebrew] PAAM, was KPR
hadeesh at sbcglobal.net
Sun Dec 30 00:25:46 EST 2012
The etymology of פעם is from:
פה (mouth) >>
פעה (to cry out, pant? (Is42:14); hiphil (Jastro) = to resuscitate)
>> פועה > Pu'ah (of Shiphrah and Puah) "she who resuscitates (midwife)"
>> נפע (Jastro) "to squirt in the mouth"
>> פעם literally means "a single puff / pant of air"
since panting is rhythmic the idea of the word gives us:
things that make rhythmic beats:
> hoof beats (Jd5:29)
> foot / hoof (making a hoof beat)
the CORNER'S of (Ex25:12)(KgI7:30) are actually FEET
> an anvil (Is41:7)
> a bell (Ex28:33)
> a moment (Pr7:12)(Nh13:20) = one moment of a rhythmic beat
> (effect of a beat or the sound of a startled beating heart) to startle
to stir up (Jd13:25)
From: Isaac Fried <if at math.bu.edu>
To: Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. <nir at ccet.ufrn.br>
Cc: "b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org list" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sat, December 29, 2012 5:35:53 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] PAAM, was KPR
I still think that he who talks about Hebrew etymology
should explain what he means by this "etymology".
Etymology, I think, is not meaning but rather interconnectivity.
As an example consider the
ויהי בבקר ותפעם רוחו
of Gen. 41:8, "And it came to pass in the morning that his (Pharaoh's)
spirit was troubled."
There is no doubt as to what happened in the morning, except
that we are left curious about the nature of the physical evocation
of the intangible emotional state WA-TI-PAEM, above and beyond
the facile "troubled". In particular, how, we want to know, is this
related to the זאת הפעם ZOT HA-PAAM, "this is now", of Gen. 2:23.
Also פעמות PAM-OT, "corners", of Ex. 25:12. Also פעמון PAAM-ON,
"bell", of Ex. 28:34.
I think that פעם is a variant of the Mishnaic פטם PTM,
(from which we have פטמה PITMAH, 'nipple, teat'),
'inflated, swelled, fat, plump, obese', (related to the פצם PCM
of Ps. 60:4(2)), so that פעמון PAAMON is but a chubby מפוטם
thin walled metal ball (bell = bellowing ball?) with bits of metal
put inside it to make a rattling noise.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Dec 28, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 21:06:32 -0500, Isaac Fried wrote
>> 1. The problem is not with not having an etymology "that we can analyze", but
>>with knowing what you mean by "etymology".
>that's it, we stay at base one all the time. i find it very frustrating. some of
>us do not accept general methodologies, invent their own,
>then want them to be the general rule.
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