[b-hebrew] k'ehad mimenou

Andronic Khandjani andronicusmy at gmail.com
Fri Nov 4 07:06:33 EDT 2011


2011/10/28 Andronic Khandjani <andronicusmy at gmail.com>

> There is some tendency use plural in the semitic and quite semitic world.
> In the Quran, Allah is using the "we", in Iran we use both forms Izad and
> Yezdan for the same God. Yezdan is basically a plural like Elohim.
>
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> 2011/10/28 Uzi Silber <uzisilber at gmail.com>
>
>> eloha singular - elohim plural.
>> why can elohim be a very early semitic conception of god as a
>> multifaceted entity or even a bundling of canaanite deities? referring
>> to them in plural seems to me a clue to such an origin.  otherwise it
>> would have been be 'tzalmo' and 'kamoni', no?
>>
>> Uzi Silber
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Andronic Khandjani
>> <andronicusmy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Uzi,
>> > Thanks.
>> > How you will render Elohim? Why the governing verb is singular?
>> >
>> > I think that we must consider Elohim as singular even HE speaks to
>> Angels. I
>> > would maintain the monotheism of the author.
>> > Firouz Khandjani
>> > 2011/10/28 Uzi Silber <uzisilber at gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Andronic
>> >>
>> >> Elohim is a plural, so 'echad me eemanu', would make sense. much like
>> >> the earlier passgae that says that man would be made 'be tzalmeynu'
>> >>
>> >> Uzi Silber
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Andronic Khandjani
>> >> <andronicusmy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > We usually renders Genesis 3:22 by "" Behold, the man is become as
>> one
>> >> > of
>> >> > us, to know good and evil", a targum translates mimenou by "by
>> himself"
>> >> > and
>> >> > the mim and the lam may suggest some motion. Mim may suggest
>> subtraction
>> >> > and
>> >> > lam adhesion.  Eva is not even mentioned but only Adam.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is it possible that k'ehad refer to the unity of Genesis 2.24, if so
>> >> > Adam
>> >> > refers here to the humanity and we may render the verse like this:
>> >> > "The human became as one by their own initiative through the
>> knowledge
>> >> > of
>> >> > good and evil"?
>> >> > .
>> >> > Firouz Khandjani
>> >> >
>> >> >
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