[b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix

Arnaud Fournet fournet.arnaud at wanadoo.fr
Sat Nov 20 04:42:06 EST 2010

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Isaac Fried" <if at math.bu.edu>
To: "Arnaud Fournet" <fournet.arnaud at wanadoo.fr>
Cc: "Pere Porta" <pporta7 at gmail.com>; "Hebrew List" 
<b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix

> I am sorry, but what you are saying appears to me to lie somewhere 
> between the world of mythology and the realm of dream-work. Do you  have 
> even the remotest idea how people spoke "when they first moved  out of 
> Africa"?
it's possible to make some tentative statements.

Are you sure they were actually "people" like us?
What reason do we have to think they were not just like us (minus 
televisions and computers)?
My point of view is that they were exactly like us.
And I tend to think that Neanderthals were not that much different, whatever 
some people say to push them into non-mankind.

> In any event, language developed spontaneously and by agreement (no  books 
> nor schools) by "simple" people and hence "primitive" languages  like 
> Hebrew must have (or have had) a very simple logical inner  structure.
I really do not see any reason to think Hebrew is "primitive".
Even though the bulk of vocabulary of Ancient Hebrew may be small, 
especially when compared to classical Arabic, this is probably caused by the 
nature of the documentation, not a feature of the language per se.

> In my opinion Hebrew is basically a primeval language that  has retained 
> this fundamental "grammar": word = root + identifiers  (personal 
> pronouns). The identifiers were the sounds I and U.
There's nothing fundamental in that typology.
This is just something you decree.
In addition vocalic schemes amount to infixes, and infixes are a complex 

> There is, and there can't be, anything "deeper".
> Isaac Fried, Boston university
"there can't be".
ok => decree

Arnaud Fournet

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