[b-hebrew] Reading Jehovah in Psalm 16:2 and in Psalm 110:1 ]

James Christian jc.bhebrew at googlemail.com
Fri Jun 25 17:00:17 EDT 2010

Hi Dave,

I believe I speak for just about everyone when I say we are already familiar
with this criticism. But I have to be honest and open with you and observe
that I don't quite see what your point is or why you made this quotation to
us. Are you for or against translating as Jehovah?

James Christian

On 25 June 2010 01:43, <davedonnelly1 at juno.com> wrote:

> On Thu Jun 24 13:44:34 EDT 2010 , Yigal Levin leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il
> wrote:
> >>>
> Dave,
> B-Hebrew does not espouse a particular dogma about the vocalization of
> theTetragrammaton,
> nor does ii even enforce a particular scheme of transliteration.
> If anyone wishes to use "Jehovah" they are free to do so,  just as others
> may use Yahweh, Yhwh, Yehovah, Lord, Kurios, Baal or even Bruce Almighty.
> I answered your original question by saying that I assumed that whoever
> used "Jehovah" simply didn't bother to change whatever source they had
> copied from, and that the reason that no-one protested was that the
> subject had already been discussed to death.
> You've now made your point. If you want to know why someone else used one
> form or another,
> ask them directly.
> If they feel like answering, they will.
> If they don't feel like discussing the issue, please respect that.
> Yigal Levin
> >>>
> Yigal,
> Thank you very much for your response.
> Just in passing, the editors of the Article JEHOVAH (YAHWEH) in the
> Encyclopedia Britannica of 1911 have been one of the harshest critics of
> those persons who first translated the Hebrew text into English. [or
> German in the case of Martin Luther.]
> After making known their belief that "Jehovah" is a mispronunciation of
> the Hebrew name, resulting from combining the consonants of the name,
> Jhvh, with the vowels of the word Adonay, "Lord", which the Jews
> substituted for the proper name in reading the scriptures . They
> continued and wrote: "In such cases of substitution the vowels of the
> word which is to be read are written in the Hebrew text with the
> consonants of the word which is not to be read. The consonants of the
> word to be substituted are ordinarily written in the margins; but
> inasmuch  as Adonay was regularly read instead of the ineffable name
> Jhvh, it was deemed unnecessary to note the fact at every occurrence.
> When Christian scholars began to study the Old Testament in Hebrew, if
> they were ignorant of this general rule or regarded the substitution as a
> piece of Jewish superstition, reading what actually stood in the text ,
> they would inevitably pronounce the name Jehovah. It is an unprofitable
> inquiry who first made the blunder,  probably many fell into it
> independently........
> I am adding a link to an image taken from the Encyclopedia Britannica of
> 1911.
> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/264290/BritannicaJehovah600.JPG
> Dave Donnelly
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