[b-hebrew] b-hebrew] "Yahweh" occurs 6823 times in the Roman Catholic NewJerusalem Bible BUT occurs "ZERO" times in the underlying Hebrew

James Christian jc.bhebrew at googlemail.com
Wed Jul 28 02:56:24 EDT 2010

As far as I am aware God never sanctioned any translations of the bible. He
never even asked us to translate it. All the translations are as bad as each
other. LORD, Yahweh and Jehovah are all inaccurate translations of Yhwh a
word we can never be sure of how exactly it was pronounced. Given that all
of these translations are just as bad as each other perhaps you should spend
more time learning Hebrew and evaluating if the rest of the Hebrew bible has
been translated just as badly. From a teaching of morality point of view (if
we can mutually agree that this is one of the major aims of the writings of
the Hebrew bible) it is perhaps the quality of the translation of the rest
of the text which would guide a reader to a correct understanding of the
morality it aims to teach. Wouldn't you agree?

James Christian

On 28 July 2010 04:45, <davedonnelly1 at juno.com> wrote:

> Hi James Christian,
> Way back on Sun Jul 25 12:15:28 EDT 2010,  You wrote:
> >>>
> Dave,
> as someone who is aware of the issues surrounding the name of God
> and someone who can sympathise with your agenda
> I really don't think your method of critiquing the reconstruction Yahweh
> is doing your cause any favours.
> The only thing you seem to be achieving on this list is coming across
> as pushing a sectarian agenda and alienating your would be audience.
> May I suggest you adopt a less dramatic tact
> and be more honest and open about your position?
> If you advance your study of Hebrew
> you may then be in a position to enter into discussions of reconstructing
> Yhwh.
> There have been many such on this list
> and your continual claim that reconstructing Yhwh has been neglected on
> this list
> only goes to show your lack of familiarity with the history of
> discussions on the list.
> This just alienates your audience even further.
> I hope you can accept this constructive criticism light heartedly.
> Why don't you just drop the Yhwh thing for now
> until you are in a position to enter into a proper linguistic discussion
> about it
> and get involved in other discussions.
> It could help you progress in Hebrew studies.
> James Christian
> >>>
> _________________________________________________________________________
> _____
> Dave asks James Christian a question:
> I am not claiming that discussions on Gesenius's  reconstructed Hebrew
> Spelling "Y-a-h-w-e-h"
> [Possibly from the Samaritan transcription Iabe]
> or
> [Possibly from Clement of Alexandria's Greek transcription "iaoue"]
> have been neglected.
> I am basically asking,
> giving what appears to be a total lack of  Masoretic Text support for the
> Hebrew Spelling "Y-a-h-w-e-h",
> do you believe that the God of the Hebrew Bible
> is behind the publishing of these four English Bibles,
> IN ANY WAY?????????
> I can only assume that you agree that neither the Leningrad Codex,
> nor any BHS text gives sufficient Hebrew Scriptural support,
> for publishing four  English Bibles in which "Yahweh" occurs 6823 times.
> Dave Donnelly
>  P.S.
> I guess I definitely am raising the issue
> of whether or not Gesenius's proposed Hebrew Punctuation "Y-a-h-w-e-h"
> [Based on Greek Transcriptions from several Early Church Fathers]
> is sufficient evidence to use,
> to publish four different English Bibles in which "Yahweh" occurs 6823
> times!!!!!!!!!
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