[b-hebrew] the dead returns

fred burlingame tensorpath at gmail.com
Wed Dec 29 18:38:42 EST 2010


lots of editing frequently happens along the way with copying ...  ... for
example, but without limitation, as your colleagues in the mainstream attest
for this document.

imagine that ....

http://www.torahresource.com/Dutillet.html



On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Jack Kilmon <jkilmon at historian.net> wrote:

>  Well, of course, Fred.  Neither Michael Klein nor Paul Kahl nor E. Y.
> Kutscher conferred with you. How negligent of the editors of the Genizah
> fragments.
> Just as a minor note you may have missed somewhere, a text copied in 870 CE
> would have been copied from much earlier manuscripts which themselves had a
> pedigree back to 70 CE and prior.
>
> Jack
>
>  *From:* fred burlingame <tensorpath at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:12 PM
> *To:* Jack Kilmon <jkilmon at historian.net>
> *Cc:* b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
>   *Subject:* Re: [b-hebrew] the dead returns
>
> the language recorded in 870 a.d., מצרים implies the language spoken in 70
> a.d., ישראל?
>
> that sounds like a reasonable inference ... not
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Geniza
>
> hebrews speaking english in jerusalem, arkansas, 2010, does not imply
> hebrews speaking english in ארץ ישראל in 2010.
>
> regards,
>
> fred burlingame
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jack Kilmon <jkilmon at historian.net>wrote:
>
>> All of which confirm the article and, of course, there are more recent
>> articles that basically give the same history.  Here are some recent
>> citations:
>>
>> The Targumym of the Cairo Genizah were indeed very important because they
>> reflected a purer dialect and as edited by M. L. Klein and reported by the
>> International Standard Bible Encyclopedia:
>> the Cairo Genizah Targum fragments were "among the most important finds
>> within the Genizah of the Ezra Synagogue in old Cairo" and P. Kahle
>> believed
>> that the textual fragments of the targums were REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
>> ARAMAIC
>> SPOKEN IN ISRAEL.  Of course, I am serious Yigal.
>>
>> Jack Kilmon
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:01 AM
>> To: <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] the dead returns
>>
>> Jack, you're citing an article about Hebrew which was written in about
>>> 1900.
>>> Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, before most of the work on
>>> the
>>> Cairo Geniza had been published, before the discovery of Ugaritic etc.
>>> Let's
>>> please be serious!
>>>
>>> Yigal Levin
>>>
>>>



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