[b-hebrew] Fish and Tree
pastormattfbcrankin at gmail.com
Mon Dec 13 21:16:53 EST 2010
I'm afraid one of those isn't the best example.
עץ = Tree, AND wood, lumber, sticks, kindling, wooden instruments, spear shafts etc, etc.
Did the widow say to Elijah that she was gathering two trees to make a fire?
Did Moses throw an entire tree into the waters at Marah? (I never realized he was so strong!)
In Numbers 35:18, is this only applicable to someone who can wield a whole tree?
Every language that I know (which isn't very many BTW) runs into the same issues. Words derive meaning from their context. Words have a range of meaning. I guess what I'm saying is, why try to force the language to do something that it isn't intended to do?
I will give you this though....you have stirred up quite a bit of dust on the list, as well as luring a lurker or two (like myself) out of the shadows.
On Dec 13, 2010, at 7:00 PM, fred burlingame wrote:
> Hello Karl:
> Thanks for your comments.
> Please forgive my inability to understand you.
> Perhaps the following examples will illuminate the issue confronting me.
> When I see the following two biblical hebrew words; I understand the
> prevailing and generally accepted english meanings of these words as
> a. דג = fish;
> b. עץ = tree.
> c. עולם = ?
> Or to say it another way; if "dag" means fish; and "etz" means tree; what
> does "olam" mean?
> It all seems so simple.
> There must be some straightforward meaning attached to the hebrew word עולם
> ; just as a simple meaning attaches to דג and עץ . ?
> What is the meaning of olam in biblical hebrew?
> fred burlingame
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:04 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM, fred burlingame <tensorpath at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Hello Karl:
>>> Thanks for your comments.
>>> Can you point to a specific example in the masoretic text of עולם meaning
>>> infinite action, eternal action ... versus finite and/or temporal action?
>> Again you focus on the form, not the action. The question is not whether or
>> not it is infinite or finite, but whether or not it deals with that which is
>> unknown. In this case, both the finite and the infinite are unknown at the
>> referent time.
>>> fred burlingame
>>> Karl W. Randolph.
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