[b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam

Hedrick Gary GaryH at cjfm.org
Fri Dec 10 23:47:26 EST 2010

Remember what we said about contextualization? I personally don't see the logic of "unknown YHWH" in the broader context of God's extensive self-relelation in the Torah.

Ex. 3:15
ויאמר עוד אלהים אל־משה כה־תאמר אל־בני ישראל יהוה אלהי אבתיכם אלהי אברהם אלהי יצחק ואלהי יעקב שלחני אליכם זה־שמי לעלם וזה זכרי לדר דר׃
Deut. 4 is a great chapter and I don't see how it promotes the idea of an "unknown (or hidden) YHWH." Are you saying we can only "know" something if it has shape or form?

Gary Hedrick
San Antonio, Texas USA

On Dec 10, 2010, at 7:56 PM, fred burlingame wrote:

> Hello Gary:
> Thanks for your comments.
> My answer to your question number 3 follows.
> a. "the unknown יהוה " ; or "the concealed (hidden) יהוה "
> Deuteronomy 4:15-19 concurs. Neither form or time attributes are revealed.
> regards,
> fred burlingame
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Gary Hedrick <GaryH at cjfm.org> wrote:
> 1. You might want to check the archives. In some ways, this thread is reinventing the wheel, so to speak, although I have to admit that your point of view is definitely unique.
> 2. Re: a possible agenda, fair enough.
> 3. Re: olam and your quest for a one-size-fits-all definition; I guess this begs the question, how do you translate it when it refers to God?
> Gary

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