[b-hebrew] Song of Songs 1:12

fred burlingame tensorpath at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 16:42:36 EST 2010

Hello Paul:

Thanks for your nice and explanatory comments.

The question remains however. The niv committee, in its wisdom, instructs
that the little phrase עד עולם means "forever."



Is that meaning of the hebrew phrase correct?...

I await your advices.


fred burlingame

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Paul Zellmer <pzellmer at sc.rr.com> wrote:

> Fred,
> עד עולם is a prepositional phrase which may be literally translated, "up to
> perpetuity."  עולם is frequently found with other spacial prepositions, like
> מן, "from" (referring to the past), and ל, "to."
> Considering your penchant for using non-standard English syntax, you
> probably would appreciate that the Hebrew sometimes omits the head of the
> prepositional phrase when עד is used, resulting in the same concept as עד
> עולם.  Basically, what is being said in such cases is, "Something is true
> until."  Until what?  Until the period of time being talked about (even if
> it is never specified) is over.  This type usage, by the way, can be found
> in numerous languages around the world.
> Anyway, the most basic meaning of עד is not "forever," but is the
> prepositional idea of "to the point of."
> Hope this helps,
> Paul Zellmer

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