[b-hebrew] 1 Kings 20:14 Who are the young men, princes of the districts?

James Spinti JSpinti at Eisenbrauns.com
Thu Apr 29 15:29:13 EDT 2010


I, too, grew up in academia, and am still in academia 50+ years later. I
am saddened that you had so many negative experiences and that they
color your interpretation of the data. Certainly, there is some of what
you describe--heaven knows I've kicked against the consensus at times.
But, you must bring data that supports your claims and
listen--carefully--to the critics and their reasons for rejecting your
interpretation. Chances are pretty good they might be right. Even if
they aren't, you can learn why they are objecting and dig deeper in
those areas. 

Unless you read the Akkadian (and bad Akkadian, at that) of the Amarna
letters, don't be too quick to date them later. They are definitely LBA,
in my opinion. 


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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 20:14 Who are the young men,princes of
the districts?


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:14 PM, George Athas
<George.Athas at moore.edu.au>wrote:

> Well, we definitely will not agree on this one, Karl. Akhenaton was
> definitely 14th century BC,

That is what is disputed, and has been disputed by trained historians
decades. However, because they were not of the herd, they were denied
professorships and scholarly publications, even degrees. (See Thomas
description of herd politics within academia and research. Having grown
in academia, I have observed some of what he describes.)


> Time and again I have observed that when an academic challenges the
reigning consensus in his field, that he does so at the peril of his
That is true even if he is a tenured professor (there are ways to get
rid of
a troublesome tenured professor, they just take a little longer than a
simple firing). I have seen data deliberately falsified to bring it in
with a consensus. I don't always agree with the challenge, but even
challenges with which I disagree should be heard without fear of losing

I have no career as a historian, nor do I desire one, therefore I can
call a
spade a spade without fear of losing my job. In this case, the spade is
archaeology contradicts the claim that the Amarna period was the 14th
century BC.

Which brings us back to the thread, namely were these men of the princes
the districts an Egyptian squad stationed in Samaria? I noticed that the
meaning of "prince" refers to a person whose job it was to keep people
line, sort of like a policeman or sheriff, not necessarily a hereditary
prince as in western culture. Even the sons of kings were "princes" in
they were to enforce the edicts of their fathers. Thus these "princes"
have been Egyptian officials assigned to keep certain districts under
Egyptian control in line, and their men were a squad of Egyptian
under their authority. That makes linguistic sense out of what is to me
otherwise puzzling verse.

Karl W. Randolph.
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