[b-hebrew] cancellable dynamicity

K Randolph kwrandolph at gmail.com
Thu Jul 2 18:26:13 EDT 2009


The question is, does Rolf see verbal participles as different from
nominative participles?

Right now I’m inclined to say that they are different, and that the
rules of uncancelability do not apply to both equally. If Rolf says
that they are equal, then we’ll have some fun.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Yitzhak Sapir<yitzhaksapir at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:02 AM, K Randolph wrote:
>> Right now I’m willing to live with a certain amount of fuzziness in
>> understanding, but if you insist that I choose one side or the other,
>> I would say that in Biblical Hebrew a participle = noun, hence not to
>> be treated as a verb.
> I am not insisting that you choose one side or the other.  I said that
> you should treat them consistently -- not choosing one side or the
> other in different cases based on your perception of grammar.  My
> preference is to view them all as "fuzzy" between both a noun and
> a verb.  Rolf was very explicit in his claims and stated that both
> infinitives and participles -- without exception -- are not cancellable,
> so you'd seem to be at odds with his view.  Again, cancellable here
> (based on Olsen) means that context cannot cause a verb to lose
> its inherent meaning (such as dynamicity).  I get the feeling you've
> got a different view of cancellability.
> Yitzhak Sapir

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