[b-hebrew] FW: Beit/Veit

AMK Judaica amkjudaica at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 23 11:21:09 EDT 2009


yigal,

 

how do we know the pronounciation of ugaritic and akkadian (or for that matter, classical arabic)?

 

thanks,

ari kinsbeg

brooklyn, new york
 
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:18:23 +0300
> From: leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il
> To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Beit/Veit
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> That was exactly my point: as far as we can tell, Biblical Hebrew did not 
> have a "v" sound. Not only doesn't Arabic, but neither did Ugaritc or 
> Akkadian, which are much closer in time to Biblical Hebrew. So yes, Isaac's 
> wife was something like "Reb'ka" (with what the Mesoretes called a Sh'va), 
> which is how the Greek got "Rebekka".
> 
> 
> The problem with D and Dh (Th as in "that") is just like B/V - since Greek 
> does not have a Dh sound, we have no way of knowing whether when Greek wrote 
> Delta, they heard Dalet or Dhalet or both. The only thing that we know is 
> that in Biblical Hebrew the difference was not "regular" enough to warrent 
> two letter-signs like in Ugaritic, but by the time of the Mesorets, they 
> were able to include the differences in the BGDKPT rule. The same, BTW, is 
> true for Gimmel, however it was "originally" pronounced.
> 
> Yigal Levin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yodan" <yodan at yodanco.com>
> To: "'b-hebrew'" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Beit/Veit
> 
> 
> >
> > Yigal, thank you and thanks to Karl and Kevin.
> >
> >
> >
> > A question to you and to others:
> >
> >
> >
> > Does the fact that Arabic doesn't have a "v" consonant support the
> > possibility that Hebrew too didn't have a "v" consonant (we know that VAV
> > was pronounced like WAW, and this is still the case in some Hebrew
> > "dialects")? If so, perhaps what later became VEIT was pronounced like 
> > BEIT?
> > (e.g. Ribka later became Rivka?).
> >
> >
> >
> > A somewhat related question: Does anyone know if DALED is believed to have
> > been pronounced as an emphatic consonant, like in Arabic, perhaps in
> > addition to another pronunciation (like "d" or like "th" in "that", as do
> > Yemenite Jews)?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Rivka Sherman-Gold
> 
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