[b-hebrew] names and puns

dwashbur at nyx.net dwashbur at nyx.net
Tue Oct 14 10:06:45 EDT 2008

I got the Laban connection and all; what I don't get is what you do with the statement about 
having taken whatever it was with sword and bow.  When Laban told Jacob in Gen 31:26 
that he had taken the stuff "like spoils of war" he was talking about the way Jacob just 
packed up and took off without so much as a by-your-leave, not how he acquired all of it.  
The story of how Jacob came to own most of Laban's assets is a great story of cunning, but 
not taking by force.  So what do you do with the sword & bow part?

On 13 Oct 2008 at 22:41, K Randolph wrote:

> Dave:
> We read in the text that Laban lived in Padan Aram, and he was called an
> Aramean (e.g. Genesis 31:20) while the town of Shechem was a Hivite town,
> further Jacob did not remain in Shechem after his sons (not he) took the
> town. Rather Jacob remained a tent dweller, moving from place to place until
> he went to Egypt.
> Therefore I understand Genesis 48:22 in the context of the statements as
> referring to his livestock which he took from an Aramean (Laban) rather than
> a set piece of land in the territory of Canaan.
> Karl W. Randolph.
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:46 PM, <dwashbur at nyx.net> wrote:
> > Karl,
> > I can't speak for Gabe, obviously, but I'm gonna need a LOT more exposition
> > on this idea
> > before I can respond to it.  I agree there's no connection with the town of
> > Shechem, but I
> > don't see the connection with Gen 31:26, either.  More info please, my
> > friend!
> >
> > On 13 Oct 2008 at 20:49, K Randolph wrote:
> >
> > > Dave and Gabe:
> > > Both of you are making an assumption that the property that Jacob took is
> > > land. But I understand it that the Amorite in question was Laban, his
> > uncle
> > > and father-in-law, and the property was his wives, children and
> > livestock,
> > > as mentioned in Genesis 31:26. Therefore the connection with the town of
> > > Shechem is completely spurious.
> > >
> > > Karl W. Randolph.
> > >
> >
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Dave Washburn
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