[b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6: BWR

K Randolph kwrandolph at gmail.com
Mon Mar 31 13:44:16 EDT 2008


Pere:
You're right on the number, I mistyped it.

What I said was that this is a transitive use of the verb. As a transitive
use, the niphal is possible, even though in this particular example it is
qal. As far as I know, intransitive verbs cannot take a niphal, but
transitive ones can.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:45 PM, <pporta at oham.net> wrote:

> Karl,
>
> I assume you mean to say 2Sa 22:30 (and not 28:30)
> If so, then )RWC is a Qal form. The same as:
> 1. )QWM -- I will stand up -- Is 30:10
> 2. )$WB - I will return -- Jb 1:21
> 3. )MWT - I will die -- Gn 26:9
>
> No Niph'al.
>
> Pere Porta
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph at gmail.com>
> To: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6: BWR
>
>
> > Pere:
> > When you think of all the happax legomai nouns and verbs found in
> Tanakh,
> > then you wonder if a particular binyan can occur once for a verb used
> more
> > often in other binyanim?
> >
> > A more important question, is RWC ever used as a transitive verb, in
> which
> > case a niphal use would not be out of order? 2 Samuel 28:30 "For in such
> I
> > run the squad…" looks like such an example.
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:49 PM, <pporta at oham.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >> Then, Karl, in your view this NRC (of RWC) would be Niph'al Past,
> >> >> third
> >> >> person singular masculine, with conversive waw attached to it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Pere Porta
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yes.
> >>
> >> > Karl W. Randolph.
> >>
> >> ____
> >>
> >> Are you sure that the Niph'al of RWC exists? I realize that neither in
> >> the
> >> bible nor in modern Hebrew appears even one form of Niph'al.
> >>
> >> Conjugations Qal, Hiph'il, Pol'el, Hitpol'el are found ... but no
> >> Niph'al.
> >>
> >> Greetings.
> >>
> >> Pere Porta
> >>
> >>
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