[b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6: BWR
pporta at oham.net
pporta at oham.net
Fri Mar 28 15:15:31 EDT 2008
> WNRC unpointed could be from RWC, RCH or RCC, and it is the context that
> gives us the clues which to use. The context of )L indicates motion
> RCC means to savage, i.e. treat roughly, RCH means to satisfy, as in
> pleased, also used as in satisfying a debt, leaving only RWC to move
> as the only one fulfilling the contextual clue of motion. Hence a
> translation, "and the rollable object is moved quickly to the dug out
Then, Karl, in your view this NRC (of RWC) would be Niph'al Past, third
person singular masculine, with conversive waw attached to it?
> Karl W. Randolph.
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:56 PM, <pporta at oham.net> wrote:
>> Yes, Karl, BWR is "pit" rather than "well".
>> Now, RCC means "to crush", not "to broke". But "WNRC", the word before
>> HGLGL, has often be
>> translated as "break" and not as "crush".
>> And so, KJ writes:
>> Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the
>> pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
>> So, be so kind to excuse the mistake I made at writing about broken
>> of the wheel (which pieces would fall into the pit). If I understand you
>> well, it is the whole wheel which is crushed and falls down into the pit.
>> Pere Porta
>> > First of all, GLGL refers to an object that can be rolled. While the
>> > common usage is to refer to a wheel, it is also used to refer to a
>> > weed Isaiah 17:13 Psalm 83:13 and in this case I think it refers to a
>> > body,
>> > wrapped up being taken to a grave. The word that specifically means
>> > "wheel"
>> > is )WPN.
>> > BWR refers to an excavation, dug out pit. Sometimes that dug out pit
>> > was
>> > also used as a well, other times dry. In Genesis 40 it was the prison
>> > Joseph worked in, sounds like a quarry. It can also be a grave.
>> > The word that specifically refers to a well is B)R.
>> > So the final section refers to the rollable object is moved quickly
>> > unto
>> > the
>> > dug out pit. The reason for )L instead of the prefix B- is because we
>> > looking at movement towards the dug out pit.
>> > Where do you get the idea of breakage and pieces?
>> > Karl W. Randolph.
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