[b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6: BWR

pporta at oham.net pporta at oham.net
Thu Mar 27 00:56:23 EDT 2008

Yes, Karl, BWR is "pit" rather than "well".
Now, RCC means "to crush", not "to broke". But "WNRC", the word before 
HGLGL, has often be
translated as "break" and not as "crush".
And so, KJ writes:

Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the 
pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

So, be so kind to excuse the mistake I made at writing about broken pieces 
of the wheel (which pieces would fall into the pit). If I understand you 
well, it is the whole wheel which is crushed and falls down into the pit.

Pere Porta

> First of all, GLGL refers to an object that can be rolled. While the most
> common usage is to refer to a wheel, it is also used to refer to a tumble
> weed Isaiah 17:13 Psalm 83:13 and in this case I think it refers to a 
> body,
> wrapped up being taken to a grave. The word that specifically means 
> "wheel"
> is )WPN.
> BWR refers to an excavation, dug out pit. Sometimes that dug out pit was
> also used as a well, other times dry. In Genesis 40 it was the prison that
> Joseph worked in, sounds like a quarry. It can also be a grave.
> The word that specifically refers to a well is B)R.
> So the final section refers to the rollable object is moved quickly unto 
> the
> dug out pit. The reason for )L instead of the prefix B- is because we are
> looking at movement towards the dug out pit.
> Where do you get the idea of breakage and pieces?
> Karl W. Randolph.
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:09 AM, <pporta at oham.net> wrote:
>> The last words in Ecc 12:6 are "el ha-bor", to the well.
>> I'm wondering why preposition "el" and not preposition "b" is used here.
>> Namely, why "el ha-bor" and not "ba-bor" (last word in Gn 40:15).
>> Does "el" mean that the "galgal" breaks and its broken pieces fall into
>> the
>> well?
>> Pere Porta
>> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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