[b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6-7

pporta at oham.net pporta at oham.net
Mon Mar 24 13:59:49 EDT 2008

You would be quite right if the noun "glt" exists. But... only "g(w)lh" 
exists as absolute, as I said (Zec 4:3). Then "g(w)lt" must be in construct.


Pere Porta

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6-7

> Pere:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM, <pporta at oham.net> wrote:
>> >> Are they necessarily construct? Or are they verb subject object
>> phrases?
>> > If they are verb subject object phrases, then this verse has all four
>> > phrases with the same grammatical structure.
>> ___________
>> They are necessarily construct. So I think. "Gulat" is clearly a 
>> construct
>> (see the absolute in Zec 4:3). And "Hebel" is construct too. Look at the
>> A.
>> section in  www.oham.net/out/N-t/N-t081.html
> The reason I asked is because a feminine noun ending in a tau can be
> absolute. We kid ourselves to think we know Biblical Hebrew well enough to
> say with absolute certainty that GLT and XBL are construct. While it is
> normal that a noun followed by an adjective or noun normally is in
> construct, it is not always so. So we need to leave that door open a 
> crack,
> especially in poetry.
>> <http://www.oham.net/out/N-t/N-t081.html>
>> Furthermore remark that the noun which comes some words after "kad" has
>> article (ha-galgal)...
> Or we could turn the question around, why is it HGLGL instead of GLGL?
>> That is why I think that "ha-kad" would be better. And I do not intend, 
>> by
>> no means, to propose a changing of the text: the text must remain as it
>> is.
>> But cientific discussion is always enlightening, so I feel.
>> Heartly,
>> Pere
>> Barcelona (Catalonia, Spain)
>> Remove the points, and the verse can be read as, "Until which that which
> ties up does not remove the silver, nor that which rolls move the gold, 
> nor
> a storage jar looked to upon stores and the round object (a body is a 
> round
> object that can be rolled, especially if wrapped in grave cloths) moved 
> unto
> the dug out pit." It probably could be translated more smoothly, but you 
> get
> the picture, I hope.
> Karl W. Randolph.
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