[b-hebrew] That piece of halibut was good enough for YHWH

K Randolph kwrandolph at gmail.com
Sun Jan 27 09:37:48 EST 2008


Jane:
Now that I have seen the skit in question, the concept that the name YHWH
was too holy to say is itself an anachronism. As far as I can tell, during
Biblical times, people had no problem with saying it. Only during Mishnaic
and later times did it become a problem.

As for its pronunciation, we don't know how Hebrew was pronounced during
Biblical times, all we know is how it was pointed during Tannaic times,
about a millennium after Hebrew had ceased to be spoken in the markets and
at the hearths of Jewish houses.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Jan 26, 2008 2:11 PM, Jane Peters <janepeters13041939 at yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

>
> > Jane:
> >
> > It was just for the fun of turning it into Biblical Hebrew. I was
> going to say something
> > about this, and I guess I should have.
>  >   Yitzhak Sapir:
> > The point is that it is quite anachronistic.  For example, how would
> the Emancipation
> > Proclamation sound in Chaucer's English?  We can try to reconstruct
> it, but it doesn't
> > really provide us with anything that anyone ever said.  Also, you seem
> to want to
> > concentrate on spelling rather than pronunciation, even though in this
> case -- the
> > sentence in question is one that probably wouldn't have been written
> down anyway.
> > My purpose was to reconstruct the Hebrew equivalent of the sentence as
> it would have
> > been spoken in the time in question.
>
>  Jane:
> I agree, what I'm doing is anachronistic. Although, unlike Mel Gibson, I'm
> being anachronistic on purpose. I think it's funny.
>
>
>  Jane:
>  Oops - 'good' did not agree in gender. I quite like the fact that the
> transliteration HLYBWT is more commonly used than PW+YT, so would personally
> still favour this over the generic DG.  And adding gam makes it sound
> better. So, taking on your points, the adjectival construction would be
> this(?):
>
>  RQ  'MRTY  KY  +WBH  HHLYBWT  HHY'  L'KLH  GM  LYHWH
>
>  And the verbal construction would be:
>
>  RQ  'MRTY KY  YY+B  HHLYBWT  HHY'  L'KLH  GM  LYHWH
>
>  I wonder if it is possible to make 'KL infinitive: L'KL ? My concern is
> that L'KLH may be too wooden.
>
>



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