[b-hebrew] soferim vs. sopherim

Yigal Levin leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il
Tue Jan 15 18:59:20 EST 2008

It's a matter of convention. Academic Bible scholars usually follow the 
"Christian" tradition of transliterating a "soft" or undotted Hebrew Pe as 
"ph", since in Greek it was rendered with a Phi. Jewish scholars dealing 
with rabbinic literature (such as the Talmud), as well as most modern 
Israelis, prefer "f". I spell my son's name "Asaph" in English, while most 
Israelis with the same name would write "Assaf".

Yigal Levin

----- Original Message ----- 

> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:31:39PM -0500, Oun Kwon wrote:
>> As written in English, soferim and sopherim are from the same Hebrew 
>> word, I
>> believe.
>> I am a little confused though, since when I google it, each does give off
>> different listing. Basically soferim = something of Talmud; whereas 
>> sopherim
>> = scribes. On the other hand the singular sofer and sopher seems same.
>> I hope I am not making a fool myself. Can you help clear my ignorance in
>> Hebrew?
>> Thank you. And Happy New Year.
> To my knowledge there is no difference in those terms (even i hebrew 
> not!).
> Petr Tomasek

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