[b-hebrew] Assumptions about ANE ages that just don't work
jcr.bhebrew at gmail.com
Mon Oct 22 05:55:38 EDT 2007
I think you could easily make a few million on an Indiana Jones film or with
a best selling Da Vinci Code style novel with this theory but you will find
it a little more difficult to persuade the academics of the validity of such
a theory on this list
However, what is of particular note, is your ability to completely self
contradict yourself. In one thread you arguing for Sarah's old age in order
to advance a conspiract theory. And in another you are proving that she
wasn't that old in order to advance another conspiracy theory. Are you going
to choose which conspiracy theory you prefer and make a solid stand on that
James Christian Read - BSc Computer Science
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On 10/21/07, JimStinehart at aol.com <JimStinehart at aol.com> wrote:
> Yaakov (J) Stein:
> You need to do the math right, and then you will see that all the numbers
> make perfect sense.
> You wrote: "Terah could die at the old age of 205/2 = 102,
> and Abraham at 75/2 = 35 took off from Haran."
> But if you do the math right, everything becomes clear.
> 75/2 = 37½
> Now we're ready to see the peculiar number 17½ writ large in the
> narratives, and thereby figure out the historical time period of the
> Patriarchal Age.
> 1. We know that each of Isaac and Esau marries at age 20 regular
> (stated age 40 "years", in 6-month "years"). By analogy, Abraham probably
> married at age 20. That means that when Abraham and Sarah take off from
> Harran, Sarah has been barren for 17½ regular years.
> 1. Abraham dies at state age 175 "years". That's age 17½, tenfold.
> Are you starting to catch it? The one and only fraction in
> the Patriarchal
> narratives is 1/10, as the Hebrew word for tithe means 1/10. Abraham
> tithes a
> tenth to Melchizedek, and in the Jacob's Ladder scene, Jacob promises to
> a tenth.
> 1. Abraham's actual age at death is 87½ regular years. His father
> sired him at age 70 "years", Jacob leads 70 Hebrews into Egypt, and the
> Egyptians mourn Jacob's death for 70 days. So 87½ suggests 87½ - 70 =
> 1. You are right that Terakh dies at age 102½. Now do the
> math. Isaac
> is born when Abraham is age 50 regular years. 17½ years later, Terakh
> Terakh was age 35 when he sired Abraham. Terakh dies 67½ regular years
> later, at age 102½. Abraham is age 67½ at Terakh's death, meaning that
> died 17½ regular years after the Covenant was fulfilled with Isaac's
> (By the way, Terakh's death is what causes Abraham to find out about the
> existence of Rebekah. 2½ regular years later, when Abraham is age 70
> years, Isaac and Rebekah wed.)
> 1. If you get serious about counting years, you can figure out that
> Judah is born 117½ years after Abraham's birth. (Abraham had already died
> years earlier, at age 87½.)
> 1. Joseph is born 2½ regular years after Judah, in Year 120. (120
> regular years after Abraham's birth.) Joseph dies at stated age 110
> which is age 55 regular years. So the Patriarchal narratives end
> with Joseph'
> s death, 55 years after Year 120, which is Year 175. I'm sure you see by
> Year 175 is 17½, tenfold. Everything is based on the peculiar number
> 1. No other composition in mankind's 5,000-year history has focused
> the peculiar number 17½. Only the Patriarchal narratives. The author
> trying to tell us something. The author is telling us the
> exact historical
> time period of the Patriarchal narratives. We need to look for a famous
> king who
> died more than ½-way through his 17th regnal year. That could be
> represented in the ancient world (which did not have a zero) by the
> number 17½. That'
> s the king whose reign coincides with the historical Patriarchal Age, in
> controversial view.
> The text as is is perfect. We just need to understand what the text is
> telling us.
> Jim Stinehart
> Evanston, Illinois
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