[b-hebrew] short [o]

pporta at oham.net pporta at oham.net
Thu Oct 18 23:53:12 EDT 2007

> On 10/17/07, Pere Porta wrote:
>> In my study on Hebrew patterns I have remarked that as regards the Qal
>> imperfect 3rd person singular masculine or most transitive regular verbs
>> the
>> Bible uses, in a general way, the short form (look at
>> www.oham.net/out/P-t/P-t189.html)  more often, by far,  than the long one
>> (look at www.oham.net/out/PI-t2/PI-t2-034.html).
>> But this seems not to apply to the book of Job, where the long form seems
>> to
>> be much more usual than the short one.
>> I'm wondering whether there are any reasons (perhaps historic? others?)
>> for
>> this.
> Your "long" and "short" forms appear to be not what Hebraists normally use
> in
> reference to verbs.  They appear to be comments on the absence or presence
> of a waw for the vowel [o:].  However, in Tiberian Hebrew vocalization,
> the
> vowel [o:] is always long irrespective of whether there is a waw or not.
> In
> general, and this applies to all [o:] vowels, a vowel is long in Tiberian
> Hebrew
> if it is in an open or stressed syllable.  So [yixto:v] and [yi$po:+] are
> pronounced with the same vowel in the second syllable.

>The only way to get a short [o] vowel is in a short open syllable before a
>guttural.  A short
> open syllable is designated by a schewa or hataf patax.


PP- A qamats qaton is not too itself a short 'o' vowel?

>Thus, the word
> thwm is pronounced toho:m with a short [o] after the t.

PP - Are you sure that "thwm" (Gn 1:2) is pronounced with a short [o] after 
the t?

Pere Porta
Barcelona (Spain)

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