[b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 3:11

Yitzhak Sapir yitzhaksapir at gmail.com
Sat Nov 17 16:12:45 EST 2007

On Nov 17, 2007 8:01 PM, Bryant J. Williams III wrote:
> Dear Yitzhak,
> Reference Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar, page 483, Para. 152y, #2. It states the
> following:

I am not sure what Gesenius you are quoting, but I think it would be
nice to also
reference the version that is online.  The statement about the
negatives is here:
That about ?$r is here:

I think the entry in HALOT on ?$r is also good.

On ?$r we can also refer to research that Holmstedt has publicized online:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/holmstedt/HolmstedtDissertation.pdf (393 pages)

I didn't read his dissertation yet.  However, I doubt that his conclusions
differ from what I suggested -- In normative Biblical Hebrew, ?$r
always introduces
a clause, and separates between complete clauses.  "mbly" is not the
end of a complete clause.  It can't be divided this way.  However, "mbly" is
very similar to "without" and ?$r to "which", so that we could argue that the
reading "without which" is justified if we adopt some non-normative syntax.
But we still have to explain the non-normative syntax.  Greek influence
may provide the solution to this, but I don't know Greek to know if it would
have provided such influence.

Yitzhak Sapir

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