[b-hebrew] bi adoni

trepp at telus.net trepp at telus.net
Thu Jul 5 23:49:44 EDT 2007


Isaac, according to your method of interpretting each syllable, bi adoni could 
mean any number of things. Especially since you make out ba) and )ab to be 
reversed cognates.

Based on that, lebab and babel should bear fraternal sentiments.

While it is interesting, and even amusing to read such novel (if not absurd) 
lexical games, I have by now seen so much of it without comment that I 
recognize your style of philology even before seeing your name, and am 
seriously wondering why so many such things are said without any spark of 
discussion. I must have counted a very long list of such fresh ideas before I 
even noticed a single person say they noticed you posted differently.

There may be something to what seems madness here, but I had to point out that 
while I like the odds and ends, it disappoints me that it isn't either 
challenged or at least reasoned with. I see people arguing blue over things 
that make for ludicrous debates in the first place, but either such 
experimentation is out of place here, or oddly unengaging.

Regardless, keep posting Isaac. I'm still trying to figure out what you are 
doing, and if anyone pays attention here. At least you are always cordial.

Travis Jackson 

> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:32:17 -0400
> From: Isaac Fried <if at math.bu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] bi adoni
> To: "<pporta at oham.net>" <pporta at oham.net>
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> Pere,
> 
> In order to try and understand what this enigmatic BI [or BIY],  
> survived only in the archaic phrase BI ADONI, functionally means we  
> need to descend into the bowels of the language.
> What is sure and certain is that the word BIY [of the KIY, MIY clan]  
> consists of the combination of the substantive, or existence marker,  
> AB-BA [having the variant AP], corresponding to the English 'be', and  
> the personal pronoun IY. Material existence connotes growth,  
> substance, mass, corpulence, bulkiness, and we find it in )AB,  
> 'father', )EB, 'vegetation', )OB, 'cask', (AB, 'cloud' [a massive  
> clod of of clotted vapor], (ABEH, 'thick, lumpy', (AWAH, 'twisted,  
> bent', BA), 'came, appeared, emerged, is here now', BU(AH, 'boil,  
> bubble, swelling', MA-BU(, 'gushing source', T-BU)AH, 'wheat', ABIYB,  
> 'grass'.
> A swell of materializing acute craving or desire is also expressed by  
> BA) [or WA] as in the root )WH. A Hebrew speaking person would say  
> nowadays BA) LI GLIDAH, 'I really desire now ice cream', or on the  
> opposite BA) LI LA-HAROG OTO.
> There is obviously a BI in the sense of BA-ANI, 'resides in me,  
> exists in me, is in me'. But I can not decide [I have already  
> straggled over it a good deal while writing my etymological  
> dictionary] if the IY in BI of BI ADONI is ANI for the supplicant or  
> HI for the master, namely, if it is BA-ANI or BA-HI.
> It is possible that BI here is a mere polite acknowledgement of  
> existence, 'he who is', akin to NA) or )ANA), for the master as in  
> XAI ADONI or XEI ADONI [see 1 Samuel 1:26], or for the supplicant, or  
> just generally 'it is so'.
> 
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
> 
> On Jul 4, 2007, at 1:31 PM, <pporta at oham.net> <pporta at oham.net> wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> "Bi" is used at the beginning of a sentence that has a request from a
> >> subordinate to his boss.
> >>
> >
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> > Pere Porta
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