[b-hebrew] labo' lepaney and Gen 6:13

B. M. Rocine brocine at twcny.rr.com
Fri Apr 20 17:40:03 EDT 2007

Hi Karl,

How about if we exercise just a bit of imagination in reading the poetry 
and see the human supplicants that come as "required attachments" to the 
groan and the petition? 

I believe the technical name for the figures in verses you quote is 
metonymy.  The two vv. in Psa are very much about gaining an audience 
with YHWH.


K Randolph wrote:
> In Psalm 79:11 the subject is a groan, in 88:2 it is my petition.
> Karl W. Randolph.
> On 4/20/07, B. M. Rocine <brocine at twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>> B-Haverim,
>> Gen 6:13  kets kol basar ba' lepanay
>> "an end of all flesh has come before me"
>> Generally the idiom "labo' lepaney" refers to having an audience, as
>> with a king or YHWH.  Occasionally it refers to leading a military force
>> into battle.  Gen 6:13 is different in that it is the only time the
>> idiom has a thing rather than a person as subject, specifically _kets
>> kol basar_.
>> So I take it to mean *the idea* of annihilation gained an audience with
>> YHWH, that is "came to his mind," right?
>> I note that the cause of annihilation is not specified.  Might the
>> expression leave open the possibility that annihilation was about to be
>> caused by man's own violence (apart from the flood)?  In other words,
>> there is a *possibility* that the clause quoted above refers to YHWH's
>> intuition that all life was about to end as a result of man's violence.
>> Is that right?
>> I think it's an interesting question because the supplicant who gains
>> audience before a great power typically does so as a means of gaining
>> salvation.  Perhaps the Hebrew gives greater voice than our extant
>> English translations to the idea that YHWH was intervening in an emergency.
>> Shalom,
>> Bryan
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>> B.M. Rocine
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B.M. Rocine
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