[b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17

davidfentonism at aim.com davidfentonism at aim.com
Sun Apr 15 01:28:06 EDT 2007


 The man-g*d "Jesus" is anot a historical figure and is a far different idol than the very Jewish Y'shua who not only declared the permanence of Torah but lived it flawlessly as a model for all. The idol condones eating swine, no Sabbath, no Feast/Festivals of Hashem, and even tolerates fossilized pagan customs in that "church" which are nowhere present in the kehillah or kahal haElohiym. It's well worth your attention. Y'shua was the promised Messiah.
 
 Shalom!
 David F.
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 Gal. 27-29: For as many as have had a tevilah into Moshiach have clothed yourselves with Moshiach. There is not Yehudi nor Yevani (Greek), there is not eved (servant) nor ben chorin (freedman), there is not zachar (male) nor nekevah (female), for you are all echad in Moshiach Yehoshua/Yeshua. And, if you belong to Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10), then you are of the ZERAH of Avraham Avinu, you are yoreshim (heirs) according to the havtachah (promise).   
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 From: rosewalk at concentric.net
 To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
 Sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 9:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
 
  But many of the followers of Jesus do say that he cancelled our 
Covenant with G-d - or replaced it, which is the same thing, 
especially since G-d didn't say that.  If you say that Jesus supports 
and expands G-d's covenant with us, then why doesn't Jesus say, or 
Christians practice, to observe our Covenant, in its entirety, and 
then if you want to add, then add?  Or otherwise, if you choose not 
to observe it, but to do other things, then just admit that you have 
composed something changed, new and different and "other"?

Shoshanna



  Harold,
 
  The only obstacles here are the misinterpretation of the Scriptures 
which led to erroneous conclusions. You know Hashem changes not (Mal. 
3:6). He gave One Covenant which is eternal. The covenants with Noah, 
Avraham, Moses do not alter Hashem's plan. Looking at it in a linear 
(rather than cyclical) fashion creates this problem. The Avrahamic 
covenant did not nullify the Noahide any more than Y'shua's nullified 
the previous ones. It built upon them. The Renewed Covenant contains 
all prior ones from Adam to David except it was an upgrade; made full 
of meaning by Y'shua as the Pesach Lamb of Eloah rather than the 
blood of goats and bulls. It was both a renewal and new (in the sense 
that Y'shua was the superlative sacrifice). Y'shua supports and 
expands the prior covenants, He did not cancel them.
 
  Regards,
  David Fenton
 
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