[b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17

davidfentonism at aim.com davidfentonism at aim.com
Fri Apr 13 00:34:20 EDT 2007

  The New Covenant has never been a significant feature of Jewish eschatology, other than the belief that eventually all Jews will know and follow the Torah without the need to study (Jer 31:32-33). For example, the article Jewish Encyclopedia: New Testament [1] states: "The idea of the new covenant is based chiefly upon Jer. xxxi. 31-34 (comp. Heb. viii. 6-13, x. 16). That the prophet's words do not imply an abrogation of the Law is evidenced by his emphatic declaration of the immutability of the covenant with Israel (Jer 31:35-36; comp. 33:25[2]); he obviously looked for a renewal of the Law through a regeneration of the hearts of the people.
 [1] http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=245&letter=N&search=New%20Testament#717
 [2] http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1133.htm#25
 (berith chadhashah, Jeremiah 31:31; he diatheke kaine, Hebrews 8:8,13, etc., or nea, Hebrews 12:24: 
 the former Greek adjective has the sense of the "new" primari1y in reference to quality, the latter the sense of "young," the "new," primarily in reference to time): 
 1. Contrast of "New" and "Old"--The Term "Covenant" 
 2. Christ's Use at the Last Supper 
 3. Relation to Exodus 24 
 4. Use in Epistle to the Hebrews 
 5. The Mediator of the New Covenant 
 6. "Inheritance" and "Testament" 
 7. Relation to Jeremiah 31:31-34 
 8. To Ezekiel 
 9. Contrast of Old and New in 2 Corinthians 3    ----------------------------
 Gal. 27-29: For as many as have had a tevilah into Moshiach have clothed yourselves with Moshiach. There is not Yehudi nor Yevani (Greek), there is not eved (servant) nor ben chorin (freedman), there is not zachar (male) nor nekevah (female), for you are all echad in Moshiach Yehoshua/Yeshua. And, if you belong to Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10), then you are of the ZERAH of Avraham Avinu, you are yoreshim (heirs) according to the havtachah (promise).   
 -----Original Message-----
 From: garyh at cjfm.org
 To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
 Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 9:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
      This nuance of meaning ("new" vs. "renewed") sounded interesting, so
I looked it up in Jer. 31:31 and it's berit chadashah--"new covenant."  The
Berit HaChadashah (the Heb. NT) has the same wording in Heb. 12:24.  So
where does "renewed" come from?  The Hebrew word for "renewed" is
Mechudeshet, not Chadashah.
    We have learned from experience that very often, a forced
translation like this is driven by some sort of ideological agenda.  Is that
true here?

Gary Hedrick
San Antonio, Texas USA

-----Original Message-----
Actually, the Jeremiah passage you cite does not say "new: but it says b'rit
chadashah (renewed covenant). If you want a concise explanation (excerpt
below) of the eternal covenant go to
http://www.revelations.org.za/Eternal_Life.htm and it quickly do that,
Harold. I know your questions/commentary is sincere and so I only hope to
respond true to my own understanding which is still developing.

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