[b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17

davidfentonism at aim.com davidfentonism at aim.com
Wed Apr 11 11:50:21 EDT 2007

 Actually, Torah was rejected by the nations and ONLY Yisra'el said we will do and then we will understand (Exd24:7). This has always been the case and only Mashiach will alter this upon His second advent when He rules with a rod of iron.
 David Fenton
 Gal. 27-29: For as many as have had a tevilah into Moshiach have clothed yourselves with Moshiach. There is not Yehudi nor Yevani (Greek), there is not eved (servant) nor ben chorin (freedman), there is not zachar (male) nor nekevah (female), for you are all echad in Moshiach Yehoshua/Yeshua. And, if you belong to Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10), then you are of the ZERAH of Avraham Avinu, you are yoreshim (heirs) according to the havtachah (promise).   
 -----Original Message-----
 From: peter at qaya.org
 To: rosewalk at concentric.net
 Cc: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
 Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 8:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
  On 11/04/2007 01:24, Shoshanna Walker wrote:
> Hello????  BY WHAT RIGHT are you quoting Romans to explain OUR Torah?
By the same right that you repeatedly quote your "Oral Torah" to explain 
OUR Torah ("OUR" because it was given to the whole world, not just one 
ethnic group). You believe that your Oral Torah is the word of God, but 
we don't. We believe that Romans is the word of God, but you don't. We 
respect your right to quote the Oral Torah as long as you understand 
that not everyone accepts it. Please give the same respect to people who 
quote the New Testament.
> Is that your own gobbeldygook? By what authority do you proclaim such 
> meaningless nonsense to a list which is SUPPOSED to be above 
> religious doctrine, even though it is SUPPOSEDLY about OUR TORAH!? 
> Which only we JEWS have all the tools to know it? ...

You can assert this if you like, even if it is racist, but not here 
because this is religious doctrine, and as you rightly say this list is 
supposed to be above religious doctrine.
> ...
> I have been quiet for a very long time on this list - months - and I 
> have not promoted Jewish doctrine, as I have been admonished over and 
> over again, not to, but until I am removed and banned by the owners 
> in case they have an anti-Jewish agenda and are offended by me, I 
> will not cease and desist from defending MY Torah, AGAINST YOUR FALSE 

If this is your intention, it is in deliberate breach of the list 
guidelines, and I hope the moderators will insist that you desist and 
remove you if you do not.
> A little respect PLEASE!

And from you!

Peter Kirk
E-mail:  peter at qaya.org
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