[b-hebrew] Tanach book order - different in Christian Bibles

Philippe Wajdenbaum pwajdenbaum at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 1 13:54:22 EDT 2006

Hello everyone,

I am new on this list, my name is Philippe Wajdenbaum; I have been following 
the discussions for about a week or so. As Daniel seems to be a subject; I 
think that Jewish authorities did not consider him as a prophet because he 
spoke about an embarassing period of time, wich is the time of the 
Hasmoneans. Either you believe in his abilty to predict future, either you 
admit the book was written after the facts. In the book of Daniel, in 
Hebrew, the orchestra of Nabuchodonosor is made of Greek instruments: 
psalterion, caitharis and sumphonia (Dn. 3:5).
For this period is embarassing, the books of Maccabees were rejected -or 
never injected- in the Tanakh. Why would the hellenistic period be 
embarassing for Jewish authorities? I think that early discussions from this 
board in the year 2000, have the answer. The whole Tanakh was written in the 
hellenistic period, I 'am afraid, like Thomas L. Thompson and Niels Peter 
Lemche claim it.
By the way, Sanhedrin comes from Greek Sunedrion, so if there ever was a 
Sanhedrin before that period, it must have had another name.


Philippe Wajdenbaum

>From: Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk at concentric.net>
>To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Tanach book order - different in Christian Bibles
>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:22:30 -0500
>1.  I thought we were talking about the Torah position on this.
>2.  Before a person could be accepted as a prophet, he would have to
>provide some unequivocal sign, the most common being an accurate
>predition of the future.  See Deuteronomy 18: 21 and 22.
>Since it was the Sanhedrin's job to see to it that the Torah was
>followed properly, it was their job to make sure that Deuteronomy 18:
>21 and 22 was fulfilled properly.
>Obviously, not everyone could just come and call himself a prophet.
>He had to be chosen by G-d.  Sanhedrin was the only body which could
>verify that.  First an individual would have to be outstanding in
>piety and knowledge of Torah.  Then, he had to make an accurate
>prediction of the future 3 times in the presence of Sanhedrin.  If he
>does, then his prophecy is assumed to be true, and he is accepted as
>a prophet.  If even the most minor aspect of his prophecy fails to
>come true, then his prophecy is judged to be completely false.  In
>the case of a false prophet, only Sanhedrin has the authority to
>render judgement.
>The source for this is various places in the Oral Torah.
>In regular English usage, whether someone is considered a prophet
>does not depend on this.
>Were any of the prophets who wrote the Hebrew Bible verified by the
>Sanhedrin? What is the evidence for this?
>Peter Kirk
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