[b-hebrew] Septuagint vs Hebrew, effect on Christianity
hholmyard at ont.com
Sat Oct 14 23:20:56 EDT 2006
>>> An easier general explanation for the verses in question -
>>> The Greek OT was 'smoothed' by low-quality scribes between 100 AD to 500 AD
>>> to be closer to the NT - by scribes who simply could not leave midrash alone :-)
>> HH: Where did you get this information?
> Many places.
> One good book is by Floyd Nolen Jones.
> The Septuagint: A Critical Analysis
HH: This does not look like a good piece of
writing, as reviewed here:
>> You don't include other sources of LXX quotations such as Philo and Josephus.
> You have confused two distinct issues. The
> 1) question of a vorlage behind the Greek OT and
> 2) actual verses that are used for NT/Tanach supposed borrowing.
HH: The Dead Sea Scrolls show that there are
differences in the LXX that stem from a different
Hebrew vorlage. This can account for differences
in the LXX text from the Hebrew such that the NT
writer quoting the LXX is not necessarily changing
> Do Philo or Josephus give any support for those actual verses ?
> I have never seen even one.
The earliest preserved OG materials: The growing
relevant materials that antedate the Second Jewish
CE) permits a glimpse of early OG textual
Greek fragments include:
Date Siglum Identification
2nd BCE 801 4 QLXX Lev\a
2nd/1st BCE 957 P.Rylands 458 Deut
805 7 QLXX Exod
804 7 QLXX Epist.Jer
1st BCE 942 P.Fouad 266 Gen
848 P.Fouad 266 Deut #1
1st BCE/1st CE 802 4 QLXX Lev\b
803 4 QLXX Num
1st CE 847 P.Fouad 266 Deut #2
1st/2nd CE 814 P.Yale 1 Gen (codex)
Early 2nd CE 963 Chester Beatty Num-Deut
Extensive quotations and allusions in Greek are
also preserved in
Philo (ca. 30 CE), Paul (ca. 50), Josephus (ca.
80), 1 Clement
(ca. 95), and a number of other Christian texts
from the early
[] period. Determination of the exact wording
quotation often must remain problematical,
however, since the
original text of the document in which it occurs
must itself be
reconstructed by careful textcritical methods.
later non-Greek versions and quotations
(especially OL) can also
be used, since they are clearly based upon Greek
texts of an
early date (see LATIN VERSIONS [SI).
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