[b-hebrew] Hebrew "If-and" construction and the Book of Mormon

Kevin Graham kevlds at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 16 22:08:41 EDT 2006


Yes, the Hebraisms were in the ORIGINAL manuscripts of the BoM. The BoM was 
published from the PRINTER's manuscripts which included the changes to make 
the so-called Hebraism sound more like decent English. So you won't find any 
if-and examples in the BoM available to the masses.


>From: "Stephen and Rebecca Shead" <srshead at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: srshead at cms.org.au
>To: kevlds at hotmail.com
>CC: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: Hebrew "If-and" construction and the Book of Mormon
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:09:06 +1000
>
>Strange - not having my hard copy handy, I checked up the online
>version of the Book of Mormon -
>http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents - to see the references in
>context, and there's neither a "then" nor an "and" there. For example,
>Helaman 12:13 says "Yea, and if he say unto the earth -- Move -- it is
>moved". Are there different versions??
>
>Stephen Shead.
>
>
>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: Kevin Graham
>>Date: 08/16/06 12:51:01
>>
>>
>>I am looking to get some confirmation about an apologetic that is growing 
>>in
>>popularity among Latter-day Saints. For those who are not familiar with 
>>the
>>Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith claims to have translated the text from gold
>>plates that were written upon an Ancient Hebrew writer.
>>
>>The original manuscripts of the Book of Mormon include weird phrases that
>>involve an if-and construction instead of an if-then construction. 
>>According
>>to Mormon scholar Royal Skousen:
>>
>>"In a recent paper I describe two important examples of Hebraisms in the
>>original text of the Book of Mormon that do not occur in the King James
>>Bible. One example is the use of the if-and clausal construction instead 
>>of
>>the expected if-(then) syntax of English, as in the following extended
>>passage from Helaman 12 where it occurs seven times (thus showing that we
>>are not dealing with an isolated transcriptional error):
>>
>>if he sayeth unto the earth move and it is moved
>>
>>if he sayeth unto the earth thou shalt go back that it lengthen out the 
>>day
>>for many hours and it is done .
>>
>>if he sayeth unto the waters of the great deep be thou dried up and it is
>>done.
>>
>>This construction is a literalistic translation of the Hebrew-language
>>construction, but does not occur at all in the King James Bible."
>>
>>For our Hebrew experts out there, is it true that the "if-and" 
>>construction
>>is a common occurence in the Hebrew Bible, and is it also true that this
>>lingustic phenomenon is unique only to Hebrew?
>>





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