[b-hebrew] Hebrew "If-and" construction and the Book of Mormon
kevlds at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 16 22:08:41 EDT 2006
Yes, the Hebraisms were in the ORIGINAL manuscripts of the BoM. The BoM was
published from the PRINTER's manuscripts which included the changes to make
the so-called Hebraism sound more like decent English. So you won't find any
if-and examples in the BoM available to the masses.
>From: "Stephen and Rebecca Shead" <srshead at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: srshead at cms.org.au
>To: kevlds at hotmail.com
>CC: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: Hebrew "If-and" construction and the Book of Mormon
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:09:06 +1000
>Strange - not having my hard copy handy, I checked up the online
>version of the Book of Mormon -
>http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents - to see the references in
>context, and there's neither a "then" nor an "and" there. For example,
>Helaman 12:13 says "Yea, and if he say unto the earth -- Move -- it is
>moved". Are there different versions??
>>From: Kevin Graham
>>Date: 08/16/06 12:51:01
>>I am looking to get some confirmation about an apologetic that is growing
>>popularity among Latter-day Saints. For those who are not familiar with
>>Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith claims to have translated the text from gold
>>plates that were written upon an Ancient Hebrew writer.
>>The original manuscripts of the Book of Mormon include weird phrases that
>>involve an if-and construction instead of an if-then construction.
>>to Mormon scholar Royal Skousen:
>>"In a recent paper I describe two important examples of Hebraisms in the
>>original text of the Book of Mormon that do not occur in the King James
>>Bible. One example is the use of the if-and clausal construction instead
>>the expected if-(then) syntax of English, as in the following extended
>>passage from Helaman 12 where it occurs seven times (thus showing that we
>>are not dealing with an isolated transcriptional error):
>>if he sayeth unto the earth move and it is moved
>>if he sayeth unto the earth thou shalt go back that it lengthen out the
>>for many hours and it is done .
>>if he sayeth unto the waters of the great deep be thou dried up and it is
>>This construction is a literalistic translation of the Hebrew-language
>>construction, but does not occur at all in the King James Bible."
>>For our Hebrew experts out there, is it true that the "if-and"
>>is a common occurence in the Hebrew Bible, and is it also true that this
>>lingustic phenomenon is unique only to Hebrew?
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