[b-hebrew] Ayin and Ghayin
B. M. Rocine
brocine at twcny.rr.com
Fri Oct 7 17:08:53 EDT 2005
From your wordy post to Yitzak, it seems that you do not understand
that one of the few ways we *attempt* to reconstruct ancient
pronunciations of one language is by examining transcriptions of that
language into a contemporary language.
May I suggest some basic reading in case you haven't already had a
chance: Saenz-Badillow, Angel. _A History of the Hebrew Language_,
Cambridge: Cambridge University, 1993.
One other thing: In your post you demand "documentation" from before
the 6th century BC that shin/sin could be differentiated. Are you
serious? You can't mean that you want some ancient philologist to have
written a certificate of such information. You must mean "evidence" or
"testimony"...except that Yitzak presented you with just such evidence,
and you do not receive it.
I concur with Kirk's motion to end the thread.
Karl Randolph wrote:
> I have already answered the problem with the
> execration texts, I will go into more detail here.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir at gmail.com>
>>I had brought evidence from the Execration Texts regarding the
>>As for Shin/Sin, Daniel Sivan's and Ziporah Cochavi-Rainey's "West Semitic
>>Vocabulary in Egyptian Script of the 14th to the 10th centuries BCE" notes:
>>Semitic & is represented in Egyptian by signs with s' and s, eg:
>>(a-s'-bu in GN [39, cf Heb (es'eb, Arabic (u$bu].
>>s'a'-(a'-ru' "hair" [187, cf Heb &e(ar, Arabic $a(r, $a(ar]
>>For further information and Bibliography see Sivan "Grammatical Analysis and
>>Glossary of the Northwest Semitic Vocables in Akkadian Texts of the 15th-13th
>>centuries BC from Canaan and Syria", AOAT 214.
>>Semitic $ is expressed by Egyptian with $, eg.
>>ma-$:-)ab "scoop" (117) from *$)B
>>Ma-$a-)-la GN (Thut III, 39) Heb Mi$)al < Canaanite *Ma$)al
>>(a'-$a-q "to oppress" (40), Heb (a$aq, Arabic (a$aqa.
>>Does this suffice?
B. M. Rocine
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