Unicode cont. was Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Samuel 7:2

Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya.org
Tue May 17 13:21:11 EDT 2005

On 17/05/2005 17:55, Trevor Peterson wrote:

> ...
>They are if they're entered in plain text, but I wonder if
>part of the problem is with how George's software writes
>HTML. ...

Yes, this seems to be correct. Here is part of the source of George's 
message as received direct from him by me:

>Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-4289E8DE44A6======="
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_6d7d.7330.6e4e
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Going a bit further in the passage:
>?????????????? ?????????????? ????????????????????? ?????????????????
>???????? ??????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ?????
>????????? ???????? ????????????? ?????????? ??????????? ???????????
>WaY.iQ.fB:CW. HaM.iC:P.fTfH WaY.i$:):aBW._MaYiM . . .
>This is the only instance of a ritual of water pouring that I can recall
>aside from Nu 5.16 ff. to which I don't see it as being related.  Does
>anyone have any insight on this?
>Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><META http-equiv=3Dcontent-type content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Dus-ascii>
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1491" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD>
><BODY bottomMargin=3D0 leftMargin=3D3 topMargin=3D0 rightMargin=3D3>
><DIV>Going a bit further in the passage:</DIV>
><DIV align=3Dright><!--StartFragment--><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: SBL =
>style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 166%"><SPAN lang=3DHE dir=3Drtl=20
>style=3D"DIRECTION: rtl; mso-bidi-language: HE">&#1493;&#1463;&#1497;&#1468=
>;&#1460;&#1511;&#1468;&#1464;&#1489;&#1456;&#1510;&#1443;&#1493;&#1468; &#=
>&#1514;&#1464;&#1492;=20 ...

In other words, in the plain text version of the message the Hebrew was 
replaced by question marks, and in the HTML version it used HTML 
character entities (&#1493; etc). The version I saw was based on the 
HTML and so displayed the Hebrew correctly, but the version which made 
it to the list was the plain text version, with only the question marks. 
The character set for both is set as US-ASCII. Probably what George 
should have done is set the character set to UTF-8, and then the plain 
text as well as the HTML part could have been properly UTF-8 encoded 
Hebrew. But I am not sure that this works with his mail client.

Peter Kirk
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