[b-hebrew] Re: Eden's Four Rivers (article)

Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya.org
Wed May 11 17:04:24 EDT 2005

On 11/05/2005 20:29, Karl Randolph wrote:

> ...
>We have all heard about Kirkland, Washington, U.S.A., but how many of us know about Kirkland, Quebec, Canada? Similarly Moscow is the capital of Russia, but that is not Moscow, Idaho, U.S.A. Today Las Vegas, Nevada is known world wide for its gambling, but as late as 1950 it was less well known than Las Vegas, New Mexico. Thus when the Bible talks about a Ur of the Chaldeas, I find it pretty hard to relate it to Ur of the Sumerians, especially when I find out that the Sumerians spoke an Indo-European language. ...

This point is not true. As for the rest, you may well be right, but you 
need some more convincing evidence to be sure.

>... That there was an ancient town in a Semitic language speaking area with a name whose pronunciation was almost identical to the Biblical Ur pretty much clinches it for me.
>As for the spread of the flood story, did it come to the Sumerians via the Chaldeans, or did the Chaldeans get it from the Sumerians, or did both get it from a third source independently of each other? The same with other stories known among both groups. The problem is that too much information has been lost from then to now, and archeology is too imprecise a tool to give an answer.

Precisely. That is why I objected to your unqualified "Abraham was not 
even from Sumer".

Peter Kirk
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