[b-hebrew] "their altars" or "his/its altars"?

Richard Burks rburks9400 at comcast.net
Sat Mar 5 04:13:34 EST 2005


This seems to me to be less about Hebrew and more about some form of agenda
to promote some view based on some book somewhere, written from some scholar
somewhere who had some idea based on some facts and some of his own ideas.

While some in the time of the prophets ... Yes many in the time of the
prophets ... Especially in the northern kingdom may have have corrupted the
worship of the LORD in the ways mentioned:  Dora and others seem to paint
with a broad brush in my opinion by taking a few artifacts and applying them
to whole of the people of Israel.

Dora while your discussion may have begun with a legitimate question it now
seems to me to have degenerated into a discourse on your view of history
rather than a discussion of Hebrew.

Personally, I would rather see the board discuss an analyze the Hebrew text
than to speculate. 

Bill Burks




On 3/4/05 10:07 AM, "Dora Smith" <villandra at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Just one thing it sounds like you may not be aware of;
> 
> Asherah was Yahweh's wife.  She was also Ba'al's wife.   It was a quite
> syncretistic religion.  In places where one god won out over the other in
> the great culture war, he absorbed the myth, cult and hymns of the other.
> Alot of the time, Ba;al and Yahweh were worshipped virtually as one.   Hence
> you see things like 9th to 8th century grafitti in a southern shrine;
> "blessings on Yahweh and Ba'al and their Asherah".
> Yours,
> Dora Smith
> Austin, Texas
> villandra at austin.rr.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deborah Millier" <deborahmillier at yahoo.com>
> To: "hebrew listserve" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:36 PM
> Subject: [b-hebrew] "their altars" or "his/its altars"?
> 
> 
>> Dear B-Hebrew List Members,
>> 
>> KiY   )eT-MiZB:XoTaM   TiToCW.N   W)eT-MfC"BoTaM
>> T:SfB"RW.N   W)eT-):aS"RaYW   TiK:RoTw.N
>> 
>> (Please note what I highlight in *astericks* in my
>> translation:)
>> 
>> "For their altars you [all] shall tear down, and their
>> standing stones you [all] shall shatter, and *his/its*
>> Asherahs you [all] shall cut [down]" (Exo. 34:13).
>> 
>> Now, of the very few English versions I checked, they
>> all rendered  ):aS"RaYW  as "*their*
>> Asherahs"-implying of course that the Asherahs
>> belonged to or were in some relationship to the listed
>> idolatrous inhabitants of the land (34:12). But, if
>> I'm not mistaken, it would be better translated "his
>> Asherahs" or "its Asherahs," right? Even if I'm
>> reading the syntax correctly, I still can't find in
>> the immediate context to whom or what these Asherahs
>> might have been related or belonged, the other nouns
>> in the verse being feminine and plural. My questions
>> then are:
>> 
>> 1) Is there any good reason to read  ):aS"RaYW  here
>> as a plural possessive?
>> 
>> 2) If not, then to whom or what might these Asherahs
>> belong or be related?
>> 
>> 3) Any suggestions/corrections on how to better read
>> the raw data?
>> 
>> --Michael Millier
>> Manila, Philippines
>> 
>> 
>> 
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