[b-hebrew] ineffable name - Abba

Dave Washburn dwashbur at nyx.net
Mon Jul 25 15:46:34 EDT 2005

This is delightful.  Thanks!

On Sunday 24 July 2005 09:56, Shoshanna Walker wrote:
> Not to insult ANYONE here, I promise
> This reminds me of a joke
> The scientists of the world, at one of their meetings, decided that
> they didn't need G-d anymore, because they knew everything, so their
> representative, very respectfully told this to G-d, who said, "OK
> I'll challenge you to a "Man making contest, you make man the way I
> did", and if you succeed, I'll leave you alone".  The scientists
> agreed and while they were working, G-d interrupted and told them -
> "No!  Get your OWN dirt"
> Shoshanna
> Shalom Solomon Landers, Shoshana Walker and others
> Thank you for taking part in the discussion!
> Although there has nothing ever been spoken by humans
> that should be called
> ineffable, because that would be a contradicting
> statement, the question is
> not, whether or not the Ineffable Name (IN) is effable
> since it surely has
> been pronounced in the past. The question is rather,
> when, where, why and by
> whom the IN should be considered ineffable.
> One should to ask oneself if one is
> A) the right person
> B) in the right status
> C) in the right place
> D) observing the right circumstances
> E) having the right reasons a.s.o.,
> before one should consider to utter the IN, even if
> one technically knew how
> it has to be pronounced. The know-how about the proper
> pronunciation has
> been hidden away not only to show people the
> difficulties of pronunciation
> as they are exhaustingly discussed in this group on
> the basis of linguistic,
> historic archeologic and other scientific
> considerations, but rather to make
> us aware of our shortcomings, should we ever dare
> considering such a thing
> as actually pronouncing the IN.
> Of course Jews look at the subject a little different
> than Christians, and
> every individuum may have a specific perspective
> again. But we should allow
> to raise one simple question:
> If Jews tremble when thinking about uttering the IN,
> should this not teach
> us to think a little deeper than just to the level of
> know-how?
> Sincerely
> Yaacov
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Dave Washburn
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married a man who studies rocks." - Betty Armstrong (Fay Masterson)

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