[b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?

Read, James C K0434995 at kingston.ac.uk
Sun Jul 24 19:59:37 EDT 2005

In fact, pure single vowels in English pronunciations are very 
rare. Most of our vowel sounds which we believe to be one vowel 
sound like two vowels together to latin cultures. And most 
transliteration policies set by British authorities (usually with 
Southern pronunciations) produce very off the mark sounds.

I would say that Peter's assertion that Spanish and Italian sounds 
are a better standard to go by as far as Latin is concered. They are
after all their descendents.

-----Original Message-----
From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Peter Kirk
Sent: Mon 7/25/2005 12:25 AM
To: David P Donnelly
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?
On 23/07/2005 15:39, David P Donnelly wrote:

> ...
> What do you think Peter?
> Are  these above three sites telling the truth?

I don't think these sites are telling deliberate lies. But I think they 
are saying more about modern American English pronunciation than ancient 

In standard British English words like "Bob" are pronounced with a 
clearly rounded "o" vowel. But in most American dialects this vowel has 
lost its rounding, so that "Bob" sounds like "Bahb" and is 
indistinguishable from "Bub". (This is one of the easiest ways for us 
Brits to spot an American accent - and the British "Mum" and American 
"Mom" are pronounced almost the same.) The traditional pronunciation of 
Latin by English speakers, probably originating in England, identifies 
(rather misleadingly) the Latin long and short "o" with the English long 
and short "o" sounds. And when American speakers follow these 
pronunciation guidelines, they end up with a sound like "ah" for short 
"o". In fact the Latin sounds are much more likely to have sounded like 
the modern Spanish or Italian "o", short and long with similar qualities.

Peter Kirk
peter at qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk at qaya.org (work)

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